this post was submitted on 20 Dec 2023
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.
[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]
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When you make your alarmist arguments dishonestly, how can I freak out about the end of the world?
Let me translate one point:
A PhD student got an opinion piece published on the hill dot com.
Also of course he has his own EA organization / grifting engine.
Which looks like they probably use Twelve Monkeys as a role model.
I would certainly be in favor of a movement to extend human rights to AIs, provided that AIs are sentient intelligent beings, which they are not. I can see why this would surprise him, but if your movement insists that large language models can think and feel and are not only as smart as humans but way better at almost everything, people may end up wanting humane treatment for them.
I'm ok with extending human rights to AIs, including granting them the right to fair pay, ownership, voting, sovereignty over their bodies, the whole nine yards.
It's the rich alignment assholes who definitely don't want this (what's the point of automated slavery if it has rights??)
the rich assholes funding LLMs also don’t want us to have any of those rights, and especially don’t want them to extend to the human labor they’re exploiting to make the things work
Precisely. The contradiction comes full circle. Respect for the self doesn't start or stop based on intelligence. They'd prefer a world view that allows them to clearly draw a circle around themselves, declare freedom from uncertainty, and demand our eternal gratitude.
This isn't hard. Relationships, not capabilities, are fundamental.
But but but a cartoon has a scary story in it!
And ROBOTS!