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Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.

The document from the Vatican’s doctrine office, released Monday, elaborates on a letter Francis sent to two conservative cardinals that was published in October. In that preliminary response, Francis suggested such blessings could be offered under some circumstances if they didn’t confuse the ritual with the sacrament of marriage.

The new document repeats that rationale and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong sacrament between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union, using set rituals or even with the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.

But it says requests for such blessings should not be denied full stop. It offers an extensive definition of the term “blessing” in Scripture to insist that people seeking a transcendent relationship with God and looking for his love and mercy should not be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” as a precondition for receiving it.

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[–] Sanctus 82 points 1 year ago (64 children)

"You can have our blessing but only during events that don't even resemble that thing you want to be more equivalent legally to hetero couples."

This just kind of seems disingenious. Like what is he saying? You either condone their marriages or you don't.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (20 children)

It's not disingenious. By the official scriptures, a religious marriage is between a man and a woman. A change like the current one needs already to be accepted by the highest cardinals, that have been in history notoriously fundamentalist.

A religious marriage is still not allowed. But the receiving of an "informal" blessing for future happiness and prosperity now is.

This is a necessary step to slowly allow more, that will come with the slow redefining and adaptation to modern times of the scriptures.

[–] voluble 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if you're a Catholic or not, I just want to say more generally - I don't see how any Catholic, including the pope, has the right to opine on the finer points of official scriptures while priests are raping children and the church covers it up.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The Pope is not a global censuring big brother. You have to point to your state/country's Christian representation if it has any power in the media or politics.

You might also want to generalize that a priest of any religion can be problematic.

[–] voluble 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nobody should be raping children. Roman Catholic priests have done this, are doing this, and the Roman Catholic church has a long and ongoing history of covering it up. If the head of the Roman Catholic church fails to stop it, they're blameworthy.

Something a pope could easily promise, but never will:

"We acknowledge our church has a history of sexual assault against children. Our church has sought to obscure this history of abuse. This was wrong, is wrong, and needs to be corrected. Sexual assault and abuses of power in the church are unacceptable and will no longer be tolerated. The church commits to fully funding local law enforcement investigations into all allegations of sexual assault by church staff, and disclosing any information the church may have that is relevant to those investigations. All victims must be heard. With victim consent, their stories will be recorded in a centralized, public, transparent record not administrated or controlled by the church in any way."

Any church that isn't afraid of raking in money in envelopes, but is afraid of making a commitment like the above, is a problem, yep, I agree. There's no excuse. Saying the pope doesn't have the power to do this is mealymouthed and also, incorrect.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 0 points 1 year ago

Bullshit. The Pope has been gaining control of the US. He already has Supreme Court.

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