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Pope Francis has formally approved allowing priests to bless same-sex couples, with a new document explaining a radical change in Vatican policy by insisting that people seeking God’s love and mercy shouldn’t be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” to receive it.

The document from the Vatican’s doctrine office, released Monday, elaborates on a letter Francis sent to two conservative cardinals that was published in October. In that preliminary response, Francis suggested such blessings could be offered under some circumstances if they didn’t confuse the ritual with the sacrament of marriage.

The new document repeats that rationale and elaborates on it, reaffirming that marriage is a lifelong sacrament between a man and a woman. And it stresses that blessings should not be conferred at the same time as a civil union, using set rituals or even with the clothing and gestures that belong in a wedding.

But it says requests for such blessings should not be denied full stop. It offers an extensive definition of the term “blessing” in Scripture to insist that people seeking a transcendent relationship with God and looking for his love and mercy should not be subject to “an exhaustive moral analysis” as a precondition for receiving it.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except married couples get legal benefits that actually matter in reality that same-sex couples don't get.

That's not the case in the UK.

So its not a strawman.

It's probably not the case where you live either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One clear legal benefit came up recently for me and my wife. She was in the hospital for several days. As her legal wife I was given certain medical information that would only go to next of kin. Before we got married we were not legal next of kin, and in fact that's the reason we got married.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smart of you two to give in and marry. I was with my better half for years without the paper. It just got to difficult dealing with all stuff. Immigration, inheritance law, shared banking accounts. People know how to deal with married couples they don't know how to deal with couples that are married in all but name.

This is the woman I love. I don't need some fucking shaman or some government stooge to define or approve or be involved in our relationship.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I fully agree with you, don't need anyone else defining my relationship. Neither government nor religion. 38 years ago she first asked me to marry her and I said no, I will never marry. We went back and forth on that issue over the decades, but as we enter old age, it just seemed wise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

me and my wife

As her legal wife

we got married

You got married? In a religious ceremony in a Christian church? Or you had a civil ceremony and are now in a civil partnership?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

In the US where I live, a civil ceremony is a legal marriage, and that's what we did, right at the courthouse. Previously we were in a domestic partnership, which required no ceremony just signing the papers, and gave us many of the legal rights of marriage. I'm not a Christian, nor a member of any major religion, so I would not avail myself of that type of religious ceremony anyway.

[–] killeronthecorner 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Dafuq are you talking about? It's not the case in the UK. Quoting directly from the page you linked to:

You can benefit from Marriage Allowance if all the following apply:

you’re married or in a civil partnership

...

[–] killeronthecorner 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That married couples do get legal benefits in the UK that unmarried couples don't?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're wrong. As shown by the source you yourself gave.

[–] killeronthecorner 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Mm, no you just missed the point of it, but crack on I guess.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] killeronthecorner 1 points 1 year ago

I respect your right to do so