this post was submitted on 15 Dec 2023
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Enough Musk Spam

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would the banks sell the debt? That asshole has the money to make the payments. If he doesn’t, they should start taking his collateral.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did he put anything up as collateral? They can't just take stuff at random, can they?

[–] Kethal 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] olosta 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These 13 billions were not loaned to Musk but to Twitter. So Musk has no obligation to personally honor those loans. The bank bought the story sold by Musk that he could make Twitter so profitable that the company could repay these loans.

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/10/28/how-elon-musk-financed-his-twitter-takeover

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They loaned Twitter the funds to buy itself? The more I see the bigger this scam seems.

[–] olosta 7 points 1 year ago

A perfectly common practice: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leveraged_buyout

The buyer is not supposed to kill the value of the company this quickly though.

[–] reddig33 5 points 1 year ago

Can they seize Twitter and sell it to someone else?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It'd be in the banks' best interest to not sell the debt then, right? Unless they think they can get more for it than the shares are worth.

[–] Kethal 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is will beyond my knowledge. I imagine if they seized his shares that would have a huge negative impact on TSLA stock price, potentially making them worth less that they could have sold the debt for. I think if he doesn't pay, the banks are in for hurt no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's a good point, it's strange they accepted shares as collateral at all then if just claiming them can cause them to tank in value.