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Rate of suicide in the U.S. peaks among older men, a hard demographic to reach (www.usatoday.com)

submitted 11 months ago by AllonzeeLV to c/news

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[–] Cosmonauticus 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well considering you're leaving out the various groups of men and women of color who are collectively fixing/fixed their joint problems, including the Black Panther party, NFWA, NAACP, CORE, AAPA etc. This notion that men are incapable of fixing their own problems with women having to do everything is insulting and just flat out wrong. And let's not ignore that in America the women's rights pursuit has always been fragmented with women of color (particularly black women) being left to fend for themselves. Sorjourner Truth had a bit to say about this. So let's not act like women were this collective united force in America.

I also think there's a substantial bitterness among women that does deserve to be there.

And there it is. This speaks volumes. That somehow men's issues are less than because of general accepted bitterness. That since you had to struggle you feel that you are morally absolved of helping (not doing all the work) and I've yet to see any joint societal problem affecting both sexes that was solved 100% by a single sex.

Every time we so much as suggest men compliment and support each other, they snap straight to whining and explaining it would really feel better if it came from women and what if someone thinks they're gay. THEN BE GAY.

So that somehow negates the fact that it'd be nice if 50% of society also chipped in to help? And since where using anecdotal. It'd be nice for women to actually know that men are so starved for any kind of positive reinforcement from the opposite sex.

it's the constant allegation that men's problems MUST belong to us and no one else. Along with also our problems, also usually courtesy of the same men.

BECAUSE THEY DO BELONG TO YOU. An injustice against anyone is an injustice against everyone. Do you think domestic violence against women didn't negatively affect men? Doing nothing until it's your problem is what leds to nazis. Empathy and sympathy is so important and it's needed for any and all change.

The more i debate the more the argument devolve into, "fuck you got mine". We figured it out on our own (even though you really didn't) and that literally asking 50% of the population not to do all the work but to simply help a very fragile and hurt group of ppl. And the most ironic part is the constant argument that MEN DON'T ASK FOR HELP. But when we do, "fuck you got mine"