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Respiratory illness activity is elevated or increasing across most areas of the United States, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

In total, 15 states plus New York City are experiencing "high" or "very high" levels of respiratory illness activity, defined as people going to the doctor with symptoms from any respiratory disease including flu, COVID, RSV and the common cold.

COVID-19 and flu hospitalizations appear to be trending upward while RSV hospitalizations appear to be to be stable, the data shows.

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[–] MTK 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Don't you see how there are other options to literally everything you said here?

I would spell it all out for you, but I believe you can do it yourself.

Some people might benefit from it and some might not. There is no absolutes here. And no, not everything is for sure going to be helpful. It's just annoying to think that going to the office is going to be always helpful and give some sort of benefit. It just isn't true. For some situations and some people it might be.

And the whole "humans are pack animals" thing, that's just stupid. It doesn't have anything to do with going back to the office. I can have my "pack" as friends and my work as work and these two don't have to mix together. That's just annoying.

[–] shalafi -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You thinking I'm some sort of absolutist here? I didn't say going in was always useful, some of us find it more annoying than helpful. But there are times when there's a clear benefit.

I can have my "pack" as friends and my work as work and these two don't have to mix together.

So you don't view the workplace as a social situation? You don't have any sort of on-the-job social interaction with your coworkers? You don't think humans evolved to work together, built all kinds of rules and behaviors around that requirement? I honestly don't know how to respond to that.

[–] MTK 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] shalafi 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't it?! I mean not 100%, but there's a hella impact from physical association.

Had a team meeting in Nashville last year. Despite seeing each other on Zoom daily, we were still strangers. After that? Everyone knew each other better, and that was nice. There was more comfort, camaraderie and respect. Looking someone in the eye and hugging them kinda works that way.

Funny thing to your point, my "best friend" at the company and I were so tight, despite never having met in person, our boss said, "So, uh, you guys met before? Already know each other?"

But that relationship took a LOT of afterhours calls and shooting the shit, plus just being compatible. Pretty unusual.

One of the few guys I know from the office, when we had one, was the only person to come to my wedding. Think he would have done that if he had never sat down and ate lunch with me?

[–] MTK 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Look, we can agree to disagree on this, I think that for some people the physical aspect is not needed for good and tight work relationships. Heck, some people date over the internet, which I think goes to show that there is no magical "this thing always is better then that"