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Marvel's 'Echo' First Reactions: "Dark, Gritty, Violent" (thecinegeek.com)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

None of those things are intrinsically synonymous with good.

[–] themeatbridge 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, but the reviews seem to be overall positive. Common complaints seem to be about the pacing, but the actors and fight scenes are winning praise, and it seems to be grounded for an MCU project, and respectful of her Choctaw heritage. Those are all the biggest pitfalls in my mind, where they went wrong with Iron Fist or Captain Falcon or Hawkeye.

[–] angrystego 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hawkeye was a pretty solid show, though. The pace was levelled well and it was more compact storytelling than the appealing but imbalanced Vandavision, Loki 1, Miss Marvel and Moon knight (and those are the MCU shows I found to be worth watching).

[–] themeatbridge 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked Hawkeye overall, but the climactic fight scenes were a bit of a letdown.

[–] angrystego 2 points 1 year ago

I saw it with a kid - it worked great for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

God(dess), I am so sick of dark and gritty. I was so hopeful that Empire (Apple) and Ted Lasso were harbingers that we'd finally turned a corner after literal decades of dark and gritty, but apparently not. If only the Empire story-writing hadn't sucked quite so many donkey balls, maybe it'd been more emulated.

The corpses of Cyberpunk and grunge have been beaten so much, I'm no longer able to unable to enjoy any dark & gritty, no matter how good.

But, apparently, it still sells. I guess as long as there are angsty teen-agers, there will always be a market for angsty shows.