There is AfreecaTV. I don't think Twitch was a big competitor to them locally in the first place. At least from the little I know about it, so take that with an extra train of salt.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Supposedly that service is P2P, so that's how they operate without the fees.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That and they are a Korean company as far as I know.
They sponsor a Starcraft 1 League in Korea at least.

[–] rigatti 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Love me some ASL.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I do too. But I always get behind and have to binge it to get back up to date.

Currently binging Season 14. So I'll hopefully be up to date around christmas again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So, if the ISP eventually deployed cgnat and broke P2P, they'll going to be screwed, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I imagine they have CGNAT already. But you can run servers that only assist users to establish a connection handshake from behind CGNAT, then all traffic happens peer to peer.

Now, whether the ISPs can get away with blocking that handshake is another story...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you can use p2p services behind cgnat, like how do you think torrent works?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm behind cgnat myself and I can download but can't seed. If everyone is behibd cgnat the swarm would be dead fast. In Korea, there are only 3 ISPs and if they collude to use cgnat with client isolation, they can kill these P2P scheme used by streaming site and boost their profit sharing revenue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

not sure where you're getting that from, all you need is some server to establish connections via and then it works mostly fine

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

We're still taking about Korean ISP charging streaming company for bandwidth, right? If the streaming service setup some TURN servers to help people behind cgnat, then they'll going to get charged by the ISP because the traffic originate from TURN servers operated by the streaming service instead of peer-to-peer traffics among users. These ISPs rejected Netflix offers to put their caching servers inside their network afterall, so the TURN servers will have to be located outside their network and thus subject to the bandwidth charge.