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He's coming right out and saying it. What more do people need? You'll be safe if you're a white, cishet, Christian man. Anyone else who helps this guy into office could be potentially signing their own death warrant and he's coming right out and admitting it. Promoting it.

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[–] blanketswithsmallpox 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... Or you can just realize this isn't reddit and that the post body is there for a reason. That is for OP to add whatever they please.

[–] superduperenigma 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The post body is for whatever the community rules say the post body is for. They have an opinion on what rules this community should adopt regarding post bodies, and I think it's fair that they can voice that opinion. It has nothing to do with whether or not this is Reddit, they just used an example from Reddit.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Agreed. And not including post body information beyond anything except the article has always been a strictly reddit based thing.

This is Lemmy and Federated so I'm against that hard.

There really should be no point in having to post a second comment rather than OP utilizing the space already built into post submissions either to save comment space/bandwith or prime discussion.

I see no real need why they need to be separated. The difference is negligible to my browsing experience. It does end up making OP need to do one more post though.

If we didn't want OP to have an opinion on something posted, then what's the difference between simply not letting them comment then? Is there some psychological trick that's make their words at the top of the page more credible just because they posted a bogus or trusted source? Does that distinction really need to be made or are users just not used to it due to reddiquette?

I think it's the latter, and antiquated.

[–] superduperenigma 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And not including post body information beyond anything except the article has always been a strictly reddit based thing.

This is Lemmy and Federated so I'm against that hard.

The entire point of the fediverse and Lemmy is that different instances and the communities within them can set things up as they see fit. And I think being so militantly against something simply because people on Reddit did it that way is silly. There's no reason to dismiss an idea simply because it was done that way on Reddit before. Just let Lemmy be its own thing without worrying about how Reddit does or doesn't do things.

I see no real need why they need to be separated. The difference is negligible to my browsing experience. It does end up making OP need to do one more post though.

The suggestion is based on the opinion that the content of posts on this community should be limited to objective information directly from/about what is being posted. Opinions, discussions, arguments, etc have their place in comments section, that way people can respond to those individual comments. Having the post itself be a combination of an article and a random musing from the OP means top level comments will be a mish-mash of responses to the article and responses to the OP's post body comment. By requiring the OP to post their comments in the comments section, we ensure that all top-level comments are responses to the linked article itself.

If we didn't want OP to have an opinion on something posted, then what's the difference between simply not letting them comment then?

Nobody is saying they don't want OP to have an opinion or be able to comment, it's a simple suggestion to separate the OP's comments from the post body itself.

[–] blanketswithsmallpox 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Right, so you've already agreed on the first two points.

I see some merit to the limiting top level comments to the article nobody reads anyway..., but expecting everyone to either go on a hate or love it comment parade feels like something that would naturally happen in the comments anyway.

I'd err to the side of already giving comments free fodder for discussion just to boost engagement. OP is essentially preempting what's already going to be a comment anyway. Hence my emphasis on is there some sort of social trick that leads credence to it? Or is that simply a failure on the readers part. It's the latter to me.

You're also expecting that multiple of the same comments at top level aren't already a thing lol. Or that OP isn't going to bring their argument to multiple levels anyway, which they will if they're active on their posts and not just top level spamming.