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Netanyahu has made it clear that he intends to pursue attacks against Gaza until Hamas is wiped out.
If Hamas cannot be wiped out by attacking Gaza, the condition for ending the war cannot be met, even if Gaza is reduced to a plain of uninhabited slag.
The purpose of the war in gaza is to get revenge. Its just 2 nations trying to genocide eachother hamas doesnt care about war crimes or the world order israil has to at least pretend to play ball to keep the americans on side.
There are always alternatives. They could call Hamas combat ineffective and declare truece. Tough to do, though as Hamas is still firing rockets on Isreal.
Wiping out Hamas is the current stated goal, not rendering them ineffective. You don't set a condition you can't meet if your intention is to stop at some point.
It all depends on your definition of wiping out. I'm sure your not going to get every single one. BTW, Saudi, Jordan and Egypt really want them to wipe them all out. They consider Hamas another Muslim Brotherhood, and don't give a shit about the Gazians.
Do you suppose Netanyahu will be content with leaving Hamas' leadership intact?
I think Netanyahu will be content to stay out of jail. He might not get to make that call.
Israel has got, between regular and reserve, about half million troops in the field. It's GDP isn't good enough to carry the cost for that for too long. It may be less of a decision than you might think.
Ours may be.
It would be, but that will never happen
You sure? Let's examine domestic politics regarding the war:
Republicans are in favor of the "plain of uninhabited slag" outcome for its own sake.
Progressives want the war to end, preferably quickly.
And centrist Democrats have a few reasons to side with Republicans on this: It doesn't involve altering the status quo. They get to be seen as bipartisan by doing something Republicans want. And they have a GWB-style "terrorist sympathizer" cudgel to deploy against progressives.
Way I see it, Netanyahu will have us doing whatever he wants until the cudgel stops working at the earliest, since he can count on having both Republicans and centrist Dems in his corner.
Have you fantasized all your life or is it more recent?
I was wondering when you'd start with the condescending dismissals.
Turns out, all I had to do was describe your behavior. Congratulations on your acquisition of a cudgel.
You described a fantasy hoping I'd bite and waste time. I didn't. I'd say nice try, but it really wasnt.
If you think I'm wasting your time, you can simply stop replying to me.