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Amazon is now automatically playing fullscreen video ads on Fire TV (9to5google.com)
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[–] CosmicCleric -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If someone could explain to me why that comment is getting downvotes?

The point I'm making is that just looking out for yourself is never enough, sooner or later its your turn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I dunno why the downvotes, but I think your analogy doesn't quite work. If anything, piracy keeps prices down for paying users - so long as piracy is an option, media services cannot raise their prices to such an obscene level, as the more they do it the more people will turn to piracy. So really pirates are on the front line.

Also, a lot of piracy is still done by torrents, which inherently helps others to pirate themselves - especially if you leave it to seed.

It's just kind of sad that fewer people do it these days. Just like it's sad how few people use ad blockers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If someone could explain to me why that comment is getting downvotes?

It's absurd. You've strained the metaphor by pushing it too far and it makes no sense.

  1. The boiling frog analogy has nothing to do with predators. Predators do not put live frogs in pots of slowly heating water.
  2. How exactly do you think ads are going to be forced on people who pirate their media?
  3. Telling people "stop giving money to trashy companies" is looking out for them. When companies get too greedy and start being shitty towards paying customers, the reaction absolutely should be "we're going to pirate it instead" so that these practices actively hurt profits.
[–] CosmicCleric -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It’s absurd. You’ve strained the metaphor by pushing it too far and it makes no sense.

And when that frog realizes that all the other frogs in the water have been caught and eaten already, where do you think the predators are going to turn to next?

The point I was trying to make is that at some point it'll be impossible or nearly impossible to do piracy, that you have to do more than just look out for yourself, you have to vote people into office that'll pass fair laws for consumers.

I'm not passing judgment on piracy, just that someday there will be a point where DRM will be too much, so you need to fight by other ways than just piracy, like getting the right laws passed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The point I was trying to make is that at some point it’ll be impossible or nearly impossible to do piracy

Piracy has always been illegal, and has always happened anyway. There is no way to make it impossible. Even Denuvo, the currently best anti-piracy measure, can be cracked and makes the experience worse for paying customers.

you need to fight by other ways than just piracy, like getting the right laws passed.

I don't live in the country that needs to pass those laws.

[–] CosmicCleric 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Piracy has always been illegal, and has always happened anyway. There is no way to make it impossible

I hope you're right, but I wouldn't be so confident in that. As time goes on, and they bake more of the DRM into the hardware directly, it'll be harder to circumvent (for the common person at the very least).

For example, the Sony PlayStation used to be very hackable, now it's not (last time I checked).

I don’t live in the country that needs to pass those laws.

I would imagine that, as the world gets more International and interconnected, that might change, at some point the future. If it doesn't, then good for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I hope you’re right, but I wouldn’t be so confident in that. As time goes on, and they bake more of the DRM into the hardware directly, it’ll be harder to circumvent (for the common person at the very least).

This is talking about a Fires TV: TV shows and movies. I've yet to experience a streaming service with required hardware and baked in DRM.

For example, the Sony PlayStation used to be very hackable, now it’s not (last time I checked).

PS1 required acquiring a physical chip and making physical changes to the device. PS5 can be jail-broken through software alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJ8DKijRzA

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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