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But, you could also say that it's just not tolerating the intolerant. That is, you want to cast out the inherently intolerant bullies, but, well, being intolerant to them. That's how it works.
Notice how I clearly have an example of someone that wasn’t “intolerant”?
These schemes don’t do a good job of finding the intolerant. Nobody puts any effort into that…
Just just mob together and pick the person they don’t like….. fairly classic bullying.
So SOMETIMES they get it right and don’t tolerate intolerance, but that’s mostly just luck. Nobody is really paying attention to the target.
They just pass out T-shirts and target anyone who’s not part of their “in group”
In other words, the extremely hard problem of identifying who’s doing something wrong, is treated as trivially simple.
Then when a person considers this problem — of correcting identifying aggressors — to be trivially easy, all the societal mechanisms for addressing that difficulty are viewed as stumbling blocks in the way of justice. I’m referring to things like free speech, due process, rights for the accused, giving people the benefit of the doubt, letting people face their accusers, using objective evidence, etc.
Thank you for honoring the unpleasantly innocent.
Yes! I think we agree entirely.
People all too often want to see the villains like cartoons. The real world is rarely like that.
They made me unhappy, so they’re clearly evil incarnate.
There are many methods of social activism that don’t involve identifying who needs to be “cast out”.
Blame is just one of many lenses through which to view the world. And even if one chooses to focus on blame, it doesn’t mean that somebody’s got to go.