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We're all just in Stockholm Syndrome to whatever culture we were born into.
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this post was submitted on 30 Nov 2023
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Yeah, that's not what Stockholm Syndrome is.
Correct. Also, fun fact: the actual origin of Stockholm Syndrome was due to the fact that the hostages were afraid of police incompetence and sided with the terrorists from fear of being killed by over aggressive poorly trained police. Source
They also successfully worked to negotiate with the hostage takers when the police didn't.
After they negotiated their own release they criticised the police in the media, and the police realised that since the hostage leading all of this was a woman, they could just employ a standard abuser's tactic and call her crazy. Apparently it worked.
Mind sharing some link that actually shows a book? Maybe its just google not liking adblockers or something
I was thinking about a character in a TV show. He’s a Christian monk who is captured by Viking raiders and kept as a slave. He’s still quite young though. And while he has no freedom, he isn’t whipped or treated like an animal, he just lives as a very low status person. Eventually, after years, he starts wanting to improve his status with the tribe around him. Maybe he’s tired of being at the bottom. Maybe he’s just starving for some kind of human connection. When they come under threat, he asks to join the Viking fighting force. This seems like pretty clear Stockholm Syndrome to me - fighting for the people who enslaved you.
But is it really that different from waking up as a child in a certain culture and over time, absorbing its ways, and feeling the desire to grow your status in that society? How many people absorb their home culture’s ways because they think about them and deem them best? It’s a process of absorption.
So yes, while there’s always a little sass and irony in showerthoughts, I think there’s a connection here with pondering. You didn’t elaborate on your “yeah no” comment at all. Perhaps now you will?
Yes, siding with your captors is different from being raised in a culture.
You’re really big on bald assertions.
I remember when I was 14 and I had everything figured out
LOL yes.
Mate.... Read it again. The irony here is almost too strong.
I'm big on words having meaning and not using words with specific meanings incorrectly.
Apparently you’ve also never heard of similes or learned anything through comparisons. Enjoy your robotic application of strict denotations to the objects in your world.
You can compare anything with a simile if you abstract it far enough. It doesn't make it an accurate statement, though. I'm sure you could find similarities between Bambi and Hitler, but that doesn't mean the two are interchangeable.
Stockholm Syndrome and cultural indoctrination are two different things. Stockholm Syndrome is a defense mechanism.
Oh my god you actually included one explanatory sentence there at the end. Imagine if you built an entire argument.
It's alright to admit you were mistaken.
I hope it’s also all right to admit when I’m bored, because I think I’ve already given you far too many opportunities to press that “no, I’m correct” button you seem to enjoy so much.
Scarabic I know it means nothing in this digital space but I’m siding with you. Eatyouwell admitted himself that you can make anything a simile if you abstract it far enough… and that’s what you did. It was a stretch of cognition but that doesn’t make it “wrong” it just means it’s not simple and easy like eatyouwell is claiming makes him correct
Thank you. I’m surprised by the amount of literalist nitpicking here. It's as if I said “we’re all leaves on the wind” and people responded “ackshully that is not accurate as I am not in fact a leaf nor any part of a tree.”
I think the other part of it is that my simile may have been even more correct than I realized. People in this thread are avidly defending the fact that they’re not brainwashed. “No, me, never! I just really truly live my chosen values! Really really!”
Which sounds exactly like a Stockholm syndrome victim passionately declaring no, they aren’t brainwashed, they truly do side with their captor.
We’re probably a lot like animals born in captivity. You don’t know what you’re missing but at the same time there are benefits and the benefits of being in captivity are all you know. So you defend your captors like a dog defending its owner because they look after you in many ways. But there’s a whole world out there that you have never known that could have been yours, for better or for worse. Sounds a lot like capitalism or many other forms of government for that matter.
Edit: hold on forget that, I drew parallels to make a simile which makes my opinion invalid
Yay Vikings is a great show
Is the last samurai a story about Stockholm syndrome too?
What about dances with wolves? Avatar?