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this post was submitted on 23 Nov 2023
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The comment might be controversial, but it shouldn't be a bannable offense.
It sure is a Blockable one though.
I think its the option of most of the world
Sure, the weak of heart need solace in these dark times, where anyone might have a different opinion than their own.
But, seriously, you're right that 'crap I don't want to hear' should totally be handled by individuals making that choice, rather than mods banning people.
I'm a huge advocate for blocking people on social media. When there's someone you don't feel like dealing with, don't.
What I take issue with is when it's not a personal decision and rather a mod/admin decides that nobody should hear what this guy has to say.
Honestly we should ban communism on non communism communities. However I'll settle for just ignoring them.
Banning someone for not having radical beliefs is just silly. We should boycott lemmy.ml as they are effectively a propaganda machine. (Try to switch to small instances)
What political views shouldn't be banned?
Views compatible with liberal democracy
What part of Communism is incompatible with Liberal Democracy?
Why is Liberal Democracy the only acceptable form of Democracy?
Communism requires a centralized control of the economy and thus is not liberal
Liberal Democracy is the only form of government that rules by consent of the governed.
You literally cannot distribute, and coordinate production of goods, to the extent Communism requires, without a centralized economy. You can have a centralized economy and no other state apparatus. I can't imagine it succeeding, which is one of many reasons I'm not communist, but it is both necessary and theoretically possible. This is communist theory, not mine.
2: syndicalism and communism are economic theories, not systems of government. The system of government you are implying is anarchism. Anarchists are fine (if, in my view, very optimistic in their understanding of how humans work) . The system of government the vast majority of communists want is not anarchism, and I would not ban anarchists, even if they're communists. The world will never just descend to anarchy, so it's all a moot discussion anyway. We've seen countries slip into authoritarian communism in current generations.
Those worker councils, to operate with any efficiency, will need a national council. To have any success whatsoever, this national council needs the authority to dictate what is made, where it is made, how much is made when, and where goods are to be shipped.
That is authoritarianism.
This sentence doesn't make sense. Capitalism is an economic system. One can be capitalist and authoritarian, as is the case with fascism, or one can be totally and completely laissez-faire as a state policy in some sort of Objectivist hellstate. Liberal Democracy is what keeps those things from happening, as a competing system of government.
I mean it 100% tracks that a fan of communism would ignore reality and substitute their own
Lol I love when you guys do this weird shit
Issues much?
I have a normal amount of fetishes, yeah. That has nothing to do with this conversation tho.
I like girls in cow print bikinis. No idea why.
I always admit when I'm wrong. I rarely discuss things Im not correct about.
You result to insults when it really isn't necessary at all. Viewing this exchange, any validity you had in your arguments is strongly undermined by your character.
Did you even read thos thread of exchanges between you and SCB?
You escalated. Every time. He didn't even match your escalation, he simply made more conversation.
At this point, you're not just looking crude and needlessly aggressive, you're looking unhinged.
Someone saying 'communism doesn't work' is not a personal attack, even if they're wrong. Get a grip.
Did you even read the thread of exchanges between you and SCB?
You escalated. Every time. He didn't even match your escalation, he simply made more conversation.
At this point, you're not just looking crude and needlessly aggressive, you're looking unhinged.
Someone saying 'communism doesn't work' is not a personal attack, even if they're wrong. Get a grip.
I don't personally think it should be banned. I find it fascinating to be able to encounter people with wildly differing ideas to mine. I switched instances aswell because the previous one didn't federate with lemmygrad and hexbear.