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[–] aidan 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Getting crushed in a mine collapse harms everyone. As unfashionable as it is, the vast majority of people, that I know at least, have experienced far more traumatic things than you could ever get from third person observation.

I hate gore, I hate seeing people dying, I hate hearing about those sorts of things. They seriously upset me, but to compare that discomfort to anything like someone working (maybe enslaved) in a mine in essentially anywhere in Africa is ridiculous. Risking on a daily basis, painful death, painful suffering than death, likely slow death from dust inhalation, severe maming, etc.

If you really believed reading it were that dangerous, it is evil of you to even summarize it as you did and risk serious harm to others.

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

PTSD leads to suicides. Very often. And even without suicide, people with poor mental health often live very short lives due to stress.

Also, please do not misrepresent what I said. I talked about not giving them safety equipment, not them dying in a mine collapse. Both involve not giving the workers protection they need for low pay and could easily lead to very poor health and short lives in exchange for being somewhat less poor than their neighbors but still poor. The miners are not given physical safety equipment and the workers for OpenAI are not given the mental safety equipment.

[–] aidan 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you trust too much in modern psychology if you think that this job would lead to significant suicides but non-chemical therapy would prevent. Much more effective would just be pre-screening or informing applicants of the duties(which may have been done)

[–] FlyingSquid 2 points 1 year ago

Did you not read what was pasted?

All of the four employees interviewed by TIME described being mentally scarred by the work. Although they were entitled to attend sessions with “wellness” counselors, all four said these sessions were unhelpful and rare due to high demands to be more productive at work. Two said they were only given the option to attend group sessions, and one said their requests to see counselors on a one-to-one basis instead were repeatedly denied by Sama management.

They are not being given the psychological tools they need. That's a big part of the problem. Again, it is no different than not being given safety equipment.