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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Trucks are commercial vehicles. The vast, vast majority of the US doesn't need a truck on a daily basis. And when they do, it's often because of their job, even if self-employed. In almost all cases pick-up trucks should be classed, and taxed, as commercial vehicles. And the exceptions have strict size restrictions.

If you need to haul some wood, gravel or other such semi-regularly, there's plenty of places to rent them.

[–] phoneymouse 9 points 1 year ago

Even if you have to haul wood and gravel what was wrong with the trucks of the 50s-90s?

[–] Seleni 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or maybe just make a law to reduce their size, and have any truck over a certain size be taxed?

I like my truck. It was my grandfather’s; I inherited it after he passed away. It’s great for hauling soil or wood for my casual home improvement projects. Not having to go to all the hassle of renting some horribly-maintained junk is great.

Of course, it’s a 2009, so not some tall coping thing. It was his farm truck.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The article talks about hood height of 40 inches or more. My pickup is tiny compared to these american beasts but I'm pretty sure that the hood is that high even on mine.

[–] halferect 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think it would be fine to Tax vehicles over a certain Size, my truck is a small truck so don't lump my truck into the giants on the road. Or better yet force car manufacturers to provide smaller vehicles, its hard to find a small truck in today's market unless you go used back to 2002

[–] dual_sport_dork 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But the reality is the opposite! Part of the reason for the death of the small truck in America is the batshit ratio of vehicle size to acceptable fuel consumption. The current "footprint" CAFE model defines the footprint of the vehicle by multiplying the vehicle's track by wheelbase, and the MPG target is drawn like a curve on a graph such that vehicles with a larger footprint are allowed a lower fuel economy score and vise versa. So the manufacturers, who really don't feel like designing new more efficient engines every few years to meet the requirements, can just cheat by making their vehicles bigger to qualify for a lower MPG target.

If that scheme sounds completely asinine to you, that's because it is. It is effectively not possible to sell a small pickup truck in America anymore unless it delivers the same gas mileage as an economy sedan -- which is not going to happen. For the 2020 model year, a truck the size of an oldschool Chevy S10 would have to deliver ~39 MPG. My Crosstrek can't even do that.

So we get giant trucks for no reason other than to be giant instead.

[–] halferect 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is Insane and extremely depressing, I love my small truck and will keep it going as long as possible.

[–] dual_sport_dork 4 points 11 months ago

Agreed. I have a '99 Silverado with a single cab (bench seat, crank windows!) but an 8' bed, and it is the most amount of truck I ever predict needing. I will drive it until it either falls apart and I can't weld it back together, or gasoline is no longer available. And before the latter happens, I will probably get around to converting it to electric. It wasn't a "small" truck at the time it was new but it is now, yet somehow it can still carry more than today's "big" trucks -- including two entire motorcycles with the tailgate shut or a stack of 4x8 ply or drywall.

The current trend of bloated trucks that may as well just be SUV's is beyond stupid. You can't haul anything useful in the back of them, nor can you put anything in the cab for fear of tearing your leather or scratching the screens on your DVD players. Most people who buy them would be better off with a station wagon instead.