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Harping on people to get married from up in the ivory tower fails to engage with reality of life in the dating trenches.

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[–] zarathustra0 41 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I like the suggestion that we concern ourselvrs more with the quality of men's internal lives, but I do worry we're still objectifying men as 'the problem'.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

It'll stop once it stops being a problem. FTA:

He had recently read about a high school creative writing assignment in which boys and girls were asked to imagine a day from the perspective of the opposite sex. While girls wrote detailed essays showing they had already spent significant time thinking about the subject, many boys simply refused to do the exercise or did so resentfully.

I mean, we're not just talking about the ability to communicate (which is important), but the basic ability to empathize. If men (in general) are unwilling to even consider the female point of view, is it any wonder why women have a difficult time dating? This isn't happening in a vacuum; there are real reasons why this is happening.

[–] zarathustra0 16 points 1 year ago

Think of the structural issues which have caused this to be the case. Blaming men for not achieving an externally defined target isn't going to help anyone.

Hate the game, not the player.

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