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[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Dude... Like....

Duuuude...

I don't know how to phrase this, but Reddit was getting filled with... Normal people? Nongeeks? The socially adept?

I'm sooo glad to be back with silly peeps. I missed that sense of critical self awareness haha. And I've been able to express some controversial opinions without getting locked and banned, which is mellowing as fuck.

[–] snek 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I believe reddit was simply filled with all kinds of people. There is an array of subs to choose from with different interests and activity levels. I find it silly that people on reddit consider themselves "non-normal" and "geeky". I don't think you're that special.

[–] SmoothLiquidation 17 points 1 year ago

This is true with all forms of social media. I remember when Twitter was starting out, and one of the main complaints was "Everyone was sharing pictures of what they ate for lunch", and my thought was "Don't follow those people". Reddit has a lot of crappy areas that won't be missed. There are a lot of dumb admins that only use the site to have a power trip. But beyond that, there was a lot of GOOD admins, and GOOD subreddits that were filled with interesting discussions and nice cultures.

This is why I am excited about the Fediverse. There will be servers run by meglomaniacs and trolls. There will be servers and communities filled with racist, misogynistic assholes. But you don't have to go to those. They can be blocked at the community and server levels.

I don't think it will be a problem as we get more and more people here. Having a bigger user base will allow for a better experience for everyone in that more exposure will make it easier for more tools to be developed. More people means more communities, and finding ones that cover more niche topics, which will make the platform more useful.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's your point of reference? If you're talking about how Reddit was 2 years ago, sure, but if you're talking like pre-2016 I don't agree.

Reddit is less pedantic, less skeptical, and more conformist then it use to be.

I find it silly that people on reddit consider themselves "non-normal" and "geeky". I don't think you're that special.

I completely disagree 🤣 I absolutely am that special 🥰

[–] snek 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been on Reddit for the past 6 years, to answer the question about the point of reference.

In my opinion, Reddit is suffering from the same problem as the internet in general: the more quantity you have, the less quality overall. The internet kept getting larger and we couldn't index every website anymore so only an ever-diminishing portion that makes it to the surface; in Reddit, this is equivalent to how the sorting algorithms work (best, rising, etc). More people means more fun, but inevitably it means the general subreddits will slowly decay into normalcy. Whatever human biases and behavioural patterns we have will eventually decide what makes it to the top and how much each new opinion or idea is consumed. We're over-populated, and somehow I feel like a federated alternative to Reddit may solve that idea to some extent. At the same time, I'm curious about the new problems that will arise from with system. There are so many available services to choose from, will this lead to a healthier internet or will we get stuck in bubbles of our own creation? At this rate, we'll find out soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been on Reddit for the past 6 years, to answer the question about the point of reference.

(2023 - 6) > 2016

When you and I talk about Reddit we're talking about different things.

[–] snek 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, we are talking about the exact same thing. I just gave a reference to what years I am talking about. Of course Reddit will differ by year. Thanks for doing the math for me like I'm some 4 year old goof.

Please don't start this "the last good album Metallica made was X"... It doesn't get the discussion anywhere, nor does it serve any purpose.

[–] arvere 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this thread is definitely giving reddit vibes

[–] snek 2 points 1 year ago

it's like measuring dick lengths to determine who is right

[–] cashews_win 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I can say things like:

"I like Brains faggots more than any other brand" and "Retard the accelerator" without my comment being deleted and/or Reddit-banned for hate-speech.

I once got suspended from Reddit for saying: "The Scots weren't innocent during the British Empire. They were used for a lot of rape & murder".

It was considered racist. Until I appealed with 2 academic history papers that showed the Scottish Highlanders were considered a "martial race" and were used extensively in colonial campaigns during the British Empire. I really don't want to have to fucking educate dumb-as-brick Yank admins who don't know history or language beyond their shores.

I was finally site-suspended and can't create new users because a mod accused me of evading a sub ban. I didn't. Another mod just unbanned me cos the reason I got banned originally was idiotic. The mod didn't care. Re-banned me so my 15yo account got permanently suspended by the admins.

I'm done with that fucking site.

[–] InfiniteVariables 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first part of your post is really confusing. Why would you talk like you're using English from 1930s? Is English your second language?

[–] cashews_win 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No. I'm 40yrs old and I don't keep up with the modern-day lingo. 😂

Also I'm British so I speak British English. "Fags" are cigarettes and "faggots" are a type of food.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Kind of hard for moderators to know that maybe.

I would just not use those words to not be misunderstood. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I would just not use those words to not be misunderstood. :)

I have an issue with the word misunderstood, could you use something less offensive to me? Like perceived differently? Misunderstood implies an objective interpretation.

[–] touchegooodsir 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This where context and being aware that other cultures can be different linguistically comes in. How much do you think people in french speaking African countries care about a certain word that describes a color over there :|

[–] lanolinoil 1 points 1 year ago

Bet you get mad in the southern groceries at frijoles negros too

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

That's the exact kind of nonsense I can't stand. People are SO scared of the prospect of a counter opinion we lose the ability to actually have discussions.

I got a 7 day site wide ban for saying "you can still kill yourself" in a discussion on Canada new assisted sucide policies. It wasn't a threat, it wasn't bullying, it was a relevant point of discussion.

[–] hydra 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's the thing. A faceless corporation doesn't have any accountability.

[–] cashews_win 12 points 1 year ago

If you've seen Steve Huffman's face you may prefer the faceless corporation to having a faced one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There are many of us with similar stories. No genuine means of appeal, and the most over-zealous and ridiculous interpretation of the rules leading to a site-wide, permanent ban.

I got banned for making a joke on a comedy sub. Literally that. Someone made a comment that they and their wife had been the only people in the theater for the premiere of Bert Kreischer's 'The Machine', and that they had fun and enjoyed it.

I replied that we all knew that was a lie, that nobody had any fun and that his entire relationship was a farce: just grinding out the next 40 years pretending to enjoy mediocre comedies that nobody else bothered to show up for.

Something to that effect anyway. Well, I guess not sharing the same sense of humour was grounds enough to delete 10 years worth of tech reviews, Linux how-to guides and assorted other long-form bullshit. I'm much more careful about where I host my content these days.

[–] Nahvi 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When they first started joining Reddit, I thought of them as FaceBookers fleeing their parents and grandparents.

That said, I am part of this new wave here. I have tried 3 separate times over the last few years to join the Fediverse but always ended up on instances that lacked content that was relevant to me. It almost went the same way this time when I joined kbin.social but I decided to try lemmy.world also and found a lot more communities that interested me here.

Incidentally, as I understand it kbin.social should have been fine for me but was temporarily suppressing the feeds from other instances to help deal with the new wave.

[–] zyS7 6 points 1 year ago

When they first started joining Reddit, I thought of them as FaceBookers fleeing their parents and grandparents

The real first wave were Digg refugees, but there's some truth to that. Millennials made heavy use of Facebook but largely abandoned the platform when their parents showed up. The only people I know who are still using Facebook are my boomer-aged parents and their friends.

[–] livingina 3 points 1 year ago

You can view lemmy communities from kbin too.

On Lemmy make sure you sort by all, not local

[–] waterbogan 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was permanently banned/ suspended for posting a link to Google Streetview of a public layby.

Hows that for random and arbitrary!

[–] CosmicCleric 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whats a "layby"?

I looked up the official definition, but I was wondering if you're using that word in an urban definition sort of way?

[–] waterbogan 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I meant the literal definition - an area at the side of a road where vehicles may pull off the road and stop.

[–] CosmicCleric 6 points 1 year ago

Wow, okay. Such a strange reason for getting banned.