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Thats correct , the IDF are the terrorists in this case. Reminding us what the literal and internationally recognised and ratified definition of terrorism and war crimes are . Nothing justifies this barbarity. They are the invaders, they could choose to walk away from the hospitals and the schools and the families and the innocent victims they are now choosing to murder, “wounded” as you claim isn't a big deal, mentally torture, abuse and eventually further radicalise against them. Perhaps thats the intention , because the goal sure as hell isn't peace. This is anti civilization and the world is watching. No one wins from this pornographic inhuman behaviour.
Pornographic?
Hamas set up a base inside that child's skull and we had to take it out
Those children really had it coming for being at a hospital. Thankfully the IOF never lies and is always the good guys when they murder children. It's just their culture to see Hamas everywhere like a scary boogeyman that justifies all war crimes.
What do you think is more likely, Israelis are horrible cartoonish monsters who love attacking hospitals, or maybe, just maybe, all the many reports about Hamas actually using hospitals, mosques, and schoolyards to shield them from reprisals have some validity?
Here. While this information is available in all kinds of places, here's a good video essay for a look into what's happening in Israel / Palestine.
https://youtu.be/jBHAitSKtVs?si=eTe_7ZjgddQAKv2k
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Thanks for the link, I learned some things. There are a lot of legitimate criticisms, and some that I don't think hold water.
Israel has been a theocracy ever since they declared themselves to be the homeland of the Jews. As there are many lineages of Jews, and religious converts of any background qualify for Israeli citizenship one must assume they are referring to the religion and not the ethnicity when they made this declaration. A better analog than the US declaring itself the home of the white people, would be if Vatican City declared itself to be home of the Catholics, (and had a much bigger population, some of whom weren't.) Still not great but different in some very relevant ways. This matters because the video then goes on to build a case from this faulty premise that Israel is an apartheid state because it employs systemic racial oppression and discrimination. However, this internal legalized discrimination doesn't seem to be racial at all, in fact they have laws explicitly forbidding racism. Within Israel, what legal discrimination exists seems to be religious, or political and from the examples provided, manifests itself as:
Theocracy isn't great but not exactly racial discrimination either, although since ethnicity and religion overlap so much on the Palestinian side of this conflict I suppose it's easy to use it as a proxy there. Less so on the Israeli side, which is comprised of many Jewish and Arab ethnicities.
Then there's also extralegal discrimination, something most countries have to contend with, only moreso here. Citizens of countries at war are often unsurprisingly prejudiced against the groups that they are at war with, like how many Americans freaked out and became anti-Islamic after 9/11. I can only imagine how much worse that would have become if the attacks against the US were ongoing for a century. This generational hatred and cycle of violence has gone on so long in Israel that there certainly seems to be many social discrimination issues to be addressed, at all levels of society. Certainly among police and right-wing politicians. Some examples of inequities that are not because of current laws:
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However, some criticisms they use to make the case for Apartheid I find unfair:
There are no flawless good guys here, only shades of grey. While there's definitely room for improvement, all evidence indicates Israel treats Palestinians better than how things would be were the roles reversed. Palestine explicitly calls for genocide, and denial of Jewish rights, both popular sentiments. They too are theocratic, but far more hostile to minorities. They have a path to end all this through diplomacy anytime they want and remove most of the repressive conditions above, provided they are willing to make concessions. Without willingness for diplomatic solutions, Israel will continue to be driven to use the stick rather than the carrot and the realpolitik military situation does not favor Palestine.
It's blockaded, and you know this. That's occupied. You're intentionally muddying the waters. Your categorizing of them being "national belligerents" is both infanitlizing and completely misses why they might be that way. It's for, like, real reasons, like an unjust occupation and explusion.
The video explicitly talks about the people in Israel proper for the majority of it, the home demolitions and unequal treatment. You're just wrong here.
Sounds like you're just saying "Great Replacement" demographics shit but with the local Arab population, fearing a demographic majority that might act in the same cruel ways back. A myth by the way.
"The only democracy in the middle east" lmao. Straight fascist apologia.
How much choice did they have really? And the video even states they get less than the agreement (and it's contaminated).
I WONDER WHY
Alright man, it's clear you either aren't arguing in good faith, are a paid shill, are a fascist, have brain worms, or some combination of all four. It's obvious you can't be helped at this point.
The same folks operating an apartheid and open air prison? The same ones that did the Nakba?
Yes, absolutely. The Israelis are mega racist
An open-air prison of Gaza's own making, mind you. Probably an unwise idea to attack Egypt--whoops.
Stop spreading misinformation. The blockade started before Hamas took charge; it started at the same time as the Israeli disengagement ended.
Your source?
-Wikipedia. For context, Hamas won the elections on 25 January 2006.
may you link the article? I'd like to read it for myself
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
That isn't my point though. My point is that Gaza's seclusion is from their own doing.
If Palestinian Terrorists never attacked Eygpt or used its humanitarian crossings to smuggle weapons and resources--Then Gaza wouldn't be in its predicament of being a prison.
So there's a lot wrong with this, but the short of it is: Collective punishment is a war crime.
Glad you agree. now tell that to hamas and jihadists.
In war between nations, all punishment is collective punishment. That's how war works. Your point of view might seem more compelling if they were not currently a belligerent territory under a hostile government actively launching bloody attacks against Israel. Blockades, fortifications, restricting movement, etc., are intended to deny the enemy resources that they would otherwise use to kill Israelis.
If Gaza sues for peace then that changes things. While they remain at war, all of these actions are totally reasonable. This is about safety, not punishing civilians.
Like I said before, this is due to the blockade. The blockade started before Hamas was in control of the strip, and wasn't strengthened in response to a particular attack against Israel (those started in earnest in 2007 after the blockade evolved into the form we know today). They're at war because peace isn't working. It didn't work in 1995, it didn't work in 2008 and it didn't work in 2014 (when Netenyahu actively opposed it, mind you).
How dare they contain the belligerent monoethnic nation that's actively trying to genocide them. What jerks, must be racism, or apartheid, or some other shocking term you want to call their self defense.
The Arabs that stayed in Israel through the nakba seem to be doing pretty well, gee, maybe this situation isn't about race after all, but rather it's about safety like they have always claimed it is.
Do you even read the comments you're responding to?
I'll just mention that literally hundreds of thousands of people were expelled from Palestine. You should read more about the Nakba before saying stuff like that.
They just want to return to their homes they were violently expelled from. Yes, it would be within their rights to use violence to expel the literal theives from their homes.
These terms are true. It is a shocking situation, especially Gaza. Israel bombed their airport, won't let them go too far off the coast, walled them off, control everything about what goes into Gaza (hell, they couldn't get pasta at one point), 97% of the water they get isn't potable. The food they do receive is calorie tracked and once described by Israel as "putting the Palestinians on a diet". They can't get concrete to rebuild shit Israel blows up regularly. That shit is fucking bleak.
It is, the oppressor is trying to keep the land they stole from the oppressed. It also hasnt stopped, and it's obvious that it's a continuous project. The ones who are there now know they're on borrowed time and many will resist.