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[–] 3arn0wl 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He ought to have sparked a constitutional crisis and refused to say it. Then he should have devolved the government.

[–] Jackthelad 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which would signal the end of the monarchy.

No bad thing, really.

[–] HowManyNimons 2 points 1 year ago

Got to spend it on something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He'd basically be dissolving his own position at that point right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Presumably it'd mean either the end of the monarchy or the end of the government as we know it, so it's a win-win for us lol

[–] 3arn0wl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yes. But why remain as an impotent king?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I mean he's 70-odd and has basically been powerless his whole life, if the options are to rock the boat or kick the can down the road and live out his last decade or two doing bugger-all in unimaginable opulence, I can see why he'd pick the latter.

Like it's not necessarily the morally right option, but I get it.

[–] 3arn0wl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, I can understand that, but he's been a lead voice on the environment a lot longer than most. I guess he's swapped his beliefs & scruples for the trappings of monarchy, and that diminishes him rather than elivates him in my eyes.

[–] Jackthelad 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You expected him to be making political statements as the monarch?

The only reason the monarchy still exists is because the head of it remains apolitical.

[–] 3arn0wl 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess I had some inchoate expectation that he'd be more influential. Sunak's just turned him into a hypocrite.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And that's the least bad thing Sunak has done this week!

[–] Jackthelad 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I generally don't want some bloke who is only there through accident of birth to have any influence on policy.

Who voted for him to have influence?

[–] 3arn0wl 1 points 1 year ago

I'd support constitutional reform.

[–] Jackthelad 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The monarch has been technically impotent since Elizabeth II took over.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's been politically/constitutionally impotent since a long time before that. But I get your point.

[–] Jackthelad 1 points 1 year ago

That's true, but I was thinking of things like Edward VIII and his friendship with Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They may not have direct power, but with their wealth and land ownership they're definitely pulling strings behind the scenes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Liz used to have a weekly meeting with the PM every Thursday, I suspect Chaz does too. I'm guessing they don't just talk about the weather and the cricket

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"So... how are things?"

[–] 3arn0wl 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Preferably in hydrofloric acid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If it devolved any more it would be primordial soup.