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Yeah, the western value of telling women what they can and cannot wear... In this regard the male relatives you speak off are very well integrated according to this logic.
You are altering facts. We are not talking about women, we are talking about little girls. Whatever your opinion is, you still have to remember this
what constitutes little girls to you? Normalment this kind of attire is worn for religious reasons starting with puberty, so 12+. And even then the question still stands, why the state should decide what girls must not wear
Considering 12 years olds as women is insanity. The legal boundary is 18
Considering 12 years old to not have any form of self consciousness and decision making is insanity. Also what kind of pedo-stuff is it to force teenage girls to wear clothes that are deemed revealing enough?
Who the hell said children had no form of self consciousness and decision making? It's funny to see you trying to reverse the implicit accusation I made in my last comment. Doesn't make sense btw
That is the implication when you say it is necessary to ban them from wearing certain clothes bevause you falsely assume they'd all be forced to wear it and never could wear it out of their own decision
Because it is an excellent tool to oppress and separate woman and girls from, for example, non-believers. It's also a way to make them remember the religious nonsensical rules all the time. That's the whole reason these veils exist.
So we should try to appeal to them for our values by doing the same thing, making opressive rules about what they can and cannot wear?
Yes, I think when rules can counter opression that's a good thing.
opressive rules do not countrr opression. They just change the opressor
Not every rule is oppressive. For it to be considered oppressive the result has to be harmful. Why is it harmful when girls don't cover their bodies?
If they really chose to cover their bodies freely, so not because they are scared or because they were told that's wrong, where's the harm in not wearing it at school?