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Yeah only cheap if you don't include your time. And the cost of land. But as a Florida food gardener - OKRA is like nothing else. It grows even in the summer here, is beautiful, the flowers are lovely and my whole family loves it. If you grow it, you can pick them when younger, and the few you inevitably miss, save for seeds. Nutritious and delicious, and in hot climates, cheap.
Beans are the obvious answer to the OP's puzzle though. Beans and rice, build up your spice cabinet, endless variety and so delicious, cheap, and healthy.
I tell ya, I tried okra last year and it was a total bust. Had enough seeds to try again this year, started them indoors. Of the 10 seedlings I sprouted, six made it into the ground in March, and only two are still growing. They're by far my slowest growers, but the good news is they look like they're finally picking up speed and are looking strong. They're about 18"-2' tall now. I hope they survive the next 3 months set to have more 100*+ days than not.
Our summer has 95-99F but rain everyday, the okra absolutely thrives in the heat, the hotter the better as far as I could tell. The flowers really are beautiful too. I didn't do it this year (rotating to avoid nematodes that love okra as much as we do), peppers are doing ok and tomatoes, basil, watermelon. Eggplant. Still waiting for the rain this year though.
My winter garden was unfortunately destroyed when we had a very unusual freeze.
I stick to native heirlooms and sturdy heat tolerant hybrids and managed broccoli this spring, was absolutely stunned that it worked. Never imagined it could grow here.
That's awesome!! Natives are where it's at. I got a bunch of drought tolerant natives for the side and front yard, where I don't have an automatic drip hose set up, and they're all thriving just fine.
I'm not sure what to rotate in for the fall garden. Or next year's, for that matter. I've learned so much and in so many ways I still feel like a complete novice! How do you go about planning your gardens?
Honestly I browse Johnny's seeds with a filter on for "heat tolerant", and thanks to my ex (who was a raving violent lunatic in his midlife but did have a wide knowledge of plants and creatures) I do know what grows here. Winter is always greens, and cilantro likes our winter so cilantro/coriander always. Plus a couple of reach things, experimental.
I tried to do beans in fall/winter because they are a staple and good for the dirt but the once in 15 years freeze killed them. But had successful collard greens, broccoli (Green Magic, cannot say enough good things about it, it survived both the freeze and the heat, the dry and the rain), fennel did shockingly well, romaine and arugula.
Summer this time is basil, watermelon, tomatoes, eggplant in the shade of the tomatoes, jalapenos and habaneros and purple sweet sweet potato - the watermelon and sweet potato are the experimental ones, not sure they will work. Started the sweet potato from a Stokes Purple from whole foods.
Oh and mint all the time in one of the planters, the one with tomatoes and eggplant now. I cut it back brutally once in awhile but it just lives there.
I mostly just try to rotate so nothing is in the same place twice in a row. Except the mint. It's tough as nails and nothing here really attacks it.
If I was in Texas I think it would be beans and peppers all the time! I eat so much of them and beans can take the heat but don't like our rain, peppers too taste so good when grown in dry climate.
Woah that was long. But a mix of heat tolerant hybrids from Johnny's seeds & plants from a local grower. I get dirt from same local guy, it's amazing and our soil in this yard is unusual for Tampa already, not so sandy.
I love all of this, thank you so much for going into such detail! I've seen Johnny's seeds online, and was curious to order from them, but I didn't know how reliable they were. I'll go take a look at their stuff.
I've been getting soil, mulch and compost from a wholesale landscape supply place. Unfortunately I didn't haul off my sandy turf mix entirely, so now the grass has grown over and there's a lil hill on the side of my front lawn, oops. Way too hot to do jack squat about it right now, though!!
Sunshine? It needs plenty of UV to grow, it is not heat. If you are too far away from the tropics, try one of the med varieties, smaller and more accustomed to less light.