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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Haven't we had many records of "good guys with a gun"

Who pull out their weapon and then either get shot by police who mistake them for the shooter or put it back because they can't tell what's going on in the chaos?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well here's some, 1 or 2 of which the police did indeed do that but tbh at least some other people were saved if not the defender. At least he actually did kinda die a hero even if the cops are stupid and trigger happy (what else is new?)

https://crimeresearch.org/2023/08/cases-where-armed-citizens-have-stopped-active-shooter-incidents/

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The percentage is incredibly small.

Out of nearly 560 mass shootings this year, we are looking at something ridiculous like less than 1% was a "good guy with a gun" that helped. And for some of those "good guy with a gun", they also end up dead from police shooting at them.

In other words, you're more likely to hope the shooter is struck by lightning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is why I never took the Republican Party seriously, even before the days when they came out as being domestic terrorists.

Anyone who is honestly more afraid of not having a gun than they are of not having a doctor, has the mindset of a 7-year-old who's Daddy just let him watch Die Hard.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You must live in a nice neighborhood

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Most of those "mass shootings" are gang violence, and when a shooter gets taken out by another shooter it's just part of the violence.

The mass shootings where the point is a massacre have a slightly better rate of "good guys with guns," but still admittedly not great.

It's completely irrelevant though, the point of the right to bear arms is so people can join a radical militia and help put down slave revolts, conquer land from the Indians, and fight tyranny, in the order of importance to the Founding Fathers.

[–] Zoboomafoo 2 points 1 year ago

I doubt more than a tiny percentage of people who carry do so specifically to stop mass shootings