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[–] friend_of_satan 85 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got an email yesterday telling me times have never been better to refinance my home. They swore that they could get me a number that was more than double my current rate.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

I chuckle evily whenever I get a call from my mortgage company asking me if I'm happy with my mortgage. At 2.25% darn right I'm happy being below the current risk free rate of return.

[–] jeffw 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Never been better for banks maybe. I refinanced during the pandemic and went from a 30 year to a 15 and barely changed my monthly payment.

[–] Dkarma 8 points 1 year ago

That's normal. You either cut years or cut monthly payment. Very rarely both unless rates are actively dropping.

A 15 yr saves you six figures over a 30 yr iirc so congrats!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean they are literally just taking your money and telling everyone it’s a good thing. Fucking wild man. My buddy has a second property that went up from $1700 a month to $2700. Insane. That some private entity can one day decide people have too much money and just literally take it.

And capitalism is the way???

[–] Alexstarfire 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There seems to be a lot of context missing because this does not make sense. A private entity has no say in what you pay after you purchase a property. Unless there is a private entity doing tax assessments. Which I'm hoping would be extremely unusual but I'm only familiar with the process in my area.

[–] jeffw 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ARMs can go up. Generally not a great mortgage to get

[–] Alexstarfire 3 points 1 year ago

That has nothing to do with private entities.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably the payment went up because of the taxes or insurance. Or maybe they didn't have an escrow account and didn't pay taxes or insurance and it was force placed.

If you have a variable rate it could also go up for that reason. But most people when rates were low had fixed rate mortgages.

[–] uranibaba 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could be fixed rate that expired and had to be renewed, but with a new rate.

[–] Alexstarfire 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US a fixed rate does not expire. At the end the loan has been repaid. I do not know of they are in the US.

[–] uranibaba 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does that work? You take a loan, negotiate a rate (say 3%) upfront, and you have this rate as long as the loan is not payed?

[–] Alexstarfire 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, though I'm not sure what you mean by not paid. You have monthly payments for the loan.

[–] uranibaba 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I meant payed off.

So if I borrow $100.000 at 3% interest rate, I will 3% for the entire duration of the loan? Even if FED increased the rates to something else?

[–] Alexstarfire 2 points 1 year ago

Yep. That's why people who got these historic low rates are going to be very resistant to moving. Myself included.