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[–] a4ng3l 83 points 1 year ago (6 children)

As an outsider I fail to understand why the reason to close shops is so critical. Can’t they just say « fuck it we’re done here » at any point in time? What’s the point on pinning the closure on fictional crime level?

[–] [email protected] 136 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

They are generating political action on an issue that is undeserving of resources. It is also about covering bad choices so investors don't lose faith.

Also Seattle’s local satire news called it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

covering bad choices so investors doing lose faith

That's a bingo.

[–] a4ng3l 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The consequence I can see it happening and being concerning. The investors thingy I don’t think it’s sound ; as an investor I would be all in for closing underperforming stores. No need to cover it for them they surely don’t give a shit beyond « money would be better invested elsewhere ».

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would agree on this point, generally businesses lie to the public for political reasons, to gin up political favor for their desired outcomes.

Most rich CEOs are out of touch and think crime just comes from "undesirables" and the only way to fix it is to massively increase police presence. In other words, they're authoritarians. This has more to do with creating a narrative about crime and intent to get political support for further instituting a police state and taking the required effort for security off the businesses. It's really about passing the bill for keeping their stores "secure" onto the taxpayer, so they can rely more on local police and on private security less.

The article in question even covers how there are already attempts to write bills targeting this problem at the Federal level. (A bipartisan bill, I might add.)

They are usually pretty honest with their investors. I would expect their investor presentations are a lot more honest, but because that's "economics news" it usually gets fewer headlines or people reporting on it. It would be interesting to contrast Target's investor calls compared to what they're saying publicly. Same with other businesses like Walgreens leaning on the same story.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They would have to spend time analyzing why they failed to make sure investors knew they wouldn't do this again. Cheaper and easier to blame the poors.

[–] a4ng3l 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Given the amount of analytics and reporting ongoing in retail I have no doubt they have all the info at hand. And they could still directly blame the poor for the poor sales performances and call to invest in better locations. More money from investors and trust is maintained.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if you've ever been in one of these stores but they were terrible. Like if the merchandising was a complete train wreck, it would require multiple people at multiple levels to admit they fucked up. Plenty of retailers in the immediate area are doing just fine, they can't even blame the location. They just aren't setup to provide what people need if it isn't a big box store.

[–] a4ng3l 0 points 1 year ago

Not in those area. Admittedly I only visited one in the LA area while there for work and it was quite the experience already…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know if you've ever been in one of these stores but they were terrible. Like if the merchandising was a complete train wreck, it would require multiple people at multiple levels to admit they fucked up. Plenty of retailers in the immediate area are doing just fine, they can't even blame the location. They just aren't setup to provide what people need if it isn't a big box store.

[–] Orbituary 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ballard Target is such a pile of shit. I never went to the u-district one and haven't visited the City Target downtown in years.

Why the fuck go to any of them with Fred Myer just a few blocks away?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The downtown Target was literally 100 feet from Pike Place. Why would they even try to stock produce 😑

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google Maps says the downtown Target is still open.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Just a matter of time.

I'll put down 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Because the immediate thought from the plebs is "the blacks shut down my favorite store by robbing it all the time" and they go vote GOP harder so that Target gets lower corporate/wealth taxes etc.

I know this because I live in a red state and anytime the locals hear about a store closing "due to theft" a sea of slurs gets echoed at full force.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

In order to keep investors basically so that they don't look like they are failing. Just shift the blame

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

It’s kinda like waking up late for work because you didn’t set your alarm, then telling your boss and everyone who will listen that the reason you’re late is because there was a shooting on your street.

[–] NoneSoVile 3 points 1 year ago

Why would a megacorporation spread a lie that feeds into right wing propaganda?

[–] BradleyUffner 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they told the truth, for example "The employees were trying to form a union, so we shut their store down as a warning to all the other stores." Then they could be sued.