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r/The_Donald now on Lemmy (edit: not anymore) (feddit.de)

submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It was banned on Reddit because it is racist, hatefull and spread Conspiracies.

In my new community I expect the exclution of racist communities. It is easy now with defederation. Nazis can do whatever they want on their instances, but the instances I want to be part of should not amplify their shit and flush it into our timelines.

The instance-admin of [email protected] did not reply to my message. Big instances seem not to defederate with them.

The new TD may not be a success, the point is not to give Nazis a platform like it is happening now. Fans of TD are racists.

Where are the instances that show face against racism?

edit: to contact the admins: @donut @TheDude @smorks

edit2: @TheDude deleted the community :)

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[–] Vorticity 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're probably right that blocking a single community should probably be an option.

That said, if an instance is willing to allow hateful communities like TD, I expect their comment sections will be more toxic than other instances. I like the idea of defederating from instances that allow hateful communities.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

its 3 people

suggesting that shitjustworks is bound to be more toxic because the modteam didnt immediately ban a shitposting community consisting of 3 people is ridiculous

[–] Vorticity 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wasn't talking about this one specific instance really. I was using it as an example while talking about the tools needed for managing federation and what a user sees.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

nothing about 'if an instance is willing to allow hateful communities like TD, I expect their comment sections will be more toxic' or 'i like the idea of defederating from instances that allow hateful communities' indicated that you werent actually talking about the instance currently under fire for supposedly (but not actually) allowing hateful communities like TD

[–] Vorticity 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe you're right. I wasn't very clear. I intended to use the TD subreddit as an example of a toxic community. I didn't mean to imply that everyone should immediately defederate form an instance that hosts a community named TD, even if that community has done nothing problematic yet. I meant to say that, if an instance does become host to a toxic community and does nothing to moderate it or remove it, that might be a good reason to defederate with them. Toxicity in one community on an instance will spill into others.

Maybe that will lead to even more segregated echo Chambers, though. Maybe that can become a different problem.

That said, the name the_donald has a bad history and I'm glad that the community was removed. IMO, that name has become synonymous with a toxic community.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

To be fair I've been reading a lot of hateful comments about reddit CEO and certain billionaires during the past few days so I'd say that our stance on such content is a bit hypocritical.

"Go see the titanic" meme is a good example

[–] Vorticity 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Are you seeing angry comments about /u/spez or hateful comments? While I can understand and condone angry comments I would hope that hateful or threatening comments are being moderated appropriately.

I guess I don't see "go see the titanic" memes as "hateful" given that they're coming from a acute sense of betrayal rather than something like racism or nationalism. That's probably because I'm angry too and see some of the distasteful comments and memes as somewhat justified in this case. I don't post shit like that but I don't see it as the same as the hate speech that used to come from /r/the_donald.