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China rushes to swap Western tech with domestic options as U.S. cracks down (www.reuters.com)
submitted 10 months ago by L4s to c/technology
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China rushes to swap Western tech with domestic options as U.S. cracks down::China has stepped up spending to replace Western-made technology with domestic alternatives as Washington tightens curbs on high-tech exports to its rival, according to government tenders, research documents and four people familiar with the matter.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Can you give an example of something the US has sanctioned from China that they suddenly became extremely competent at all on their own?

China has caught up so quick because we literally give them the blueprints on some or the west's most advanced designs, setup the factories, show them how to make it, and then go all shocked Pikachu when they just... Do that in another location too but with a different logo on it.

I don't think there are really that many Chinese companies that rose up domestically organically. They stole their way to success and often continue to follow behind the western company they copied because they don't have the people that made the product, just their designs to parody.

I don't buy this "we're digging our own grave by not allowing our most sensitive technology to be manufactured in China for them to steal it via an easy button." If they want to steal it, make them at least try.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

BYD and NIO are good examples. But you will never believe you to be proven wrong so I won't waste my time looking for others.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

BYD actively sells electric busses in the US. There was never a sanction to stop BYD or NIO (to my knowledge).

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-wiki-buffett-byd/special-report-warren-buffetts-china-car-deal-could-backfire-idUSTRE72848X20110309

But diplomatic cables revealed by WikiLeaks and provided to Reuters by a third party, as well as interviews with industry consultants and executives who have examined the company’s operations, raise a number of questions about the fledgling carmaker. Among other things, they describe a record of stealing designs from rivals, using those savings to undercut competitors on price and scrimping on safety.

And oh... There's that