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Oh look, another reason not to give a shit about ultra-fashy WH40k
I think you're thinking of Games Workshop, the IP holder for WH and WH40K. This is about Creative Assembly, the developer of the Total War RTS games, mostly historical, but also 3 set in the WH universe. They basically developed a very adversarial relationship with their core audience and failed to innovate in decades. Oh wait it is kinda similar to the Games Workshop situation...
40k is, in part, parody to make fun of fascists. That's why it's so absurdly over the top. The fact that fascists like it says more about them than the setting.
In that case, I don't think GW knows what parody is.
It is a ridiculous imitation of a theocratic fascist society.
Yeah, Sure. Way to much hero worship and storylines where the genetically pure supersoldiers of the empire are the good guys to be a parody of fascism.
They aren't the good guys. A lot (too much if you ask the community) of the fiction is told from the perspective of the imperium/space Marines, but that doesn't make them the good guys.
They go around saying things like "The rewards of tolerance are treachery and betrayal." They clearly are not meant to be the good guys, even in their own stories.
The problem is media literacy is so poor that far too many people look at quotes like that and think "that's a good point". Even the creators have put out press releases about how all the fascists are missing the point.
That's an absurdly surface level examination.
You sadly did nothing to deepen my understanding. But there were luckily other. You can now tear into me for not using google or something...
I think you might be taking this internet thing a little too seriously. We all have misunderstandings about stuff but it's not good to stubbornly insist that you know what you're talking about despite clearly never having actually looked in to the material. That's the extent of my tearing in. But you are right in that I should do better about actually saying things of substance instead of trying to be snide all the time.
There are no good guys in 40k, only various flavors of evil. And for bonus points this has nothing to do with 40k.
Protagonists aren't always the good guys. Anyone would tell you there are no good guys in 40k and everyone lives a brutal life under eternal war, showing the absurdity of facism.
But...this has absolutely nothing to do with WH40k? The fuck are you talking about?
They are either a troll or an idiot, in either case best to just mute and move on instead of giving them attention.
isnt total war warhammer about w40k?
No, it's about Warhammer fantasy, also Games Workshop, but different universe. Creative Assembly - the Total War guys - have never made a 40k game.
lol, no. Makes it pretty obvious you don't know what you're angry about.
uh Im not that guy lol
Im just a random person who made a throwaway comment which happened to be wrong
at this point the confusing naming is a pretty good shibboleth to show if you know what you're talking about
you failed
Dumb take. That's not what's at issue here and making it an excuse to red herring a series you dislike is really dumb.
But violent video games and rap music is still a problem though right?
Wait what? The "everyones evil" franchise has evil people in it? Gasp