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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bullcrap… I guess you didn’t know that Christian Zionism predates Jewish Zionism, did you?

It doesn't. The religious-academic roots of Zionism in both religions go way back. Jews were resettling from Europe to Ottoman Palestine in proto-Zionist migration as early as the 1500s.

No - it isn’t. Comparing Israel to Apartheid-South Africa is actually softballing it.

Well, then you should try reading the second part of that sentence before you have a heart attack from being so triggered.

I can literally google Ben-Gurion and produce a laundry list of his quotes that demolishes your argument

Yes, Ben Gurion is one of those hard-liners who is responsible for the deterioration of Arab-Jewish relations in the 1920s. I wouldn't go so far as to say his views represented the whole of Zionism prior to or during WWI. The situation was salvageable until Britain gave up.

[–] masquenox 0 points 1 year ago

Even Israeli historians will happily blow your garbage alt-history out of the water for you.

"The idea of the Jews returning to their ancient homeland as the first step to world redemption seems to have originated among a specific group of evangelical English Protestants that flourished in England in the 1840s; they passed this notion on to Jewish circles." - Anita Shapira

Even right-wing Israeli historians doesn't claim anything that can be called "proto-zionism" with a straight-face that existed before 1860, genius.

Well, then you should try reading the second part of that sentence

So which part of...

No - it isn’t. Comparing Israel to Apartheid-South Africa is actually softballing it.

...are you having a hard time comprehending?

Ben Gurion is one of those hard-liners

In other words... just a Zionist that was schooled in the white supremacism, antisemitism and colonialism of "western civilization" - just another bog-standard colonizer who happened to be Jewish.