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In his remarks, not only does Johnson claim Roe “gave constitutional cover to the elective killing of unborn children,” but he rails against the imagined economic detriments of abortion, pushing his caucus’ outlandish claim that by depleting a hypothetical workforce, abortion has defunded social security: “Think about the implications of that on the economy. We’re all struggling here to cover the bases of social security and Medicare and Medicaid and all the rest,” Johnson says. “If we had all those able-bodied workers in the economy we wouldn’t be going upside down and toppling over like this... Roe was a terrible corruption.” Mind you, social security and health care have been gutted in the last several years by Republican lawmakers, not people who choose to end a pregnancy.

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[–] BeautifulMind 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, he's concerned about funding social security?

Bullshit. He doesn't give a fuck about that.

The reason Social Security faces solvency problems is that wages (on the low end, at least) have been kept flat for close to 30 years. Wages are the basis for Social Security funding!
Its solvency challenges aren't because the Boomers are retiring, the actuaries were able to see that coming when the Boomers were kids. The thing they didn't see coming was that suppressing wages would become a bipartisan affair.

When Johnson says he's going to fund social security, he's not going to fund social security- he's going to dangle that as bait to get stupid people to support a national ban on abortion in hopes it will soften the backlash against the GOP for its unpopular anti-abortion politics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This, Pro-Life doesn't mean what it used to back in the 90's

Used to it meant you just wanted some common sense restrictions, now it means you think women should be state mandated broodmares.

At least that's as far as the general public is concerned, the GOP needs to find a new angle if they want to keep this ban a rolling.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What kind of common sense restrictions are you talking about?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Same that most of Europe has, can't do it in later semesters unless there is something clearly wrong with the baby, or said baby is product of rape or incest.

I'm not a monster I just think we need to be sure that we are doing the right thing when we terminate a human life. Kind of like how you don't euthanize a patient who is expected to get better even if they are in pain.

[–] aidan 1 points 1 year ago

I mean, social security does have a much lower payer to user ratio now