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[–] LazaroFilm 112 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Ok. Chrome sucks. Brave sucks. What’s good. Firefox?

[–] [email protected] 248 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Firefox with good plugins is even better!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Absolutely! Another really good fork of FF to check out is Floorp I'm thinking of making it my main and going steady :) https://floorp.app/en/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Your link points back to this post.

[–] EuroNutellaMan 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

he uses this post as the sole way to access the internet. He is forever trapped here with no way out. He weeps for there are no memes to him but his condition, as he slowly falls into the pit of insanity. He is forever condemned to read about Brave browser quietly slippin VPN services, and the occasional comment. But eventually the activity will die, and he will be condemned to a lifetime of loneliness until bit-rot will consume the thread or death will free him of his pain.

[–] TheCuriosity 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like his personal version of when the sun dies for an immortal.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

😆 How did I manage to do that? LMFAO

[–] TheLobotomist 2 points 1 year ago

Wow man, you should write a short novel

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unless browser fingerprinting is your concern, in which case the most generic, unmodified browser is best (e.g. Tor).

But that is a huge topic for another thread.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Overall you‘re right but in which world is tor generic and unmodified 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not possible to identify you if you use the tor browser without changing the window size or any other settings, because the fingerprint is literally the same amongst everyone that uses it this way. So you kind of blend in with the masses, it's neither generic nor unmodified, I give you that :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Simply the OS already makes that difficult, true. Nonetheless, it's one of your best bets.

For those who truly want to stay private, installing plugins on the Tor browser is obviously a no go. Changing any setting or even the window size should not be done. Seriously.

And I'd venture that Tor on phones might be the most homogenous, though that still isn't saying a lot, sadly. Plus, smartphones are a privacy nightmare regardless (tip of the iceberg).

In the end, fingerprinting makes true privacy very challenging. Great introduction to the topic.

And an advanced writeup with excellent resources for those who really want to get into the subject matter.

Edit: spelling

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[–] KonalaKoala 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And the only thing greater than Firefox is Librewolf.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Or hardened Firefox, which is pretty much the same thing (I use Librewolf myself for convenience).

[–] EncryptKeeper 2 points 1 year ago

I love Firefox, used it for years. However I eventually had to switch because of weird bugs and issues with functioning sites. In my sparing personal usage I didn’t run into many issues, but using it at work I ran into really weird issues all the time.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm team Firefox, very happy here. There's a small amount of optional telemetry to disable to maximise your privacy, and it has the best plugins because there's a lot of choice and they're not purposely crippled.

[–] KpntAutismus 18 points 1 year ago

Plus you can use pretty much any plugin on mobile. this is the biggest feature for me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like Firefox because it allows, Atleast for now, customization via userchrome.css files. I once tried Edge and hated it's bloated right click context menu. Meanwhile, in Firefox, I can trim down the context menu to only basic elements.

I do wish Firefox had proper PWA support, but otherwise I have been using it as the main browser on both PC and phone(since uBlock Origin is supported on it, the only Chromium browser to support it is Kiwi Browser on Android).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@kirk781 @Deebster I’m using this, I’m not satisfied with the solution but that’s what we’ve got https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's probably an addon for Firefox that gives some PWA support

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There does exists one. But when I last tried it, the experience was worse than what a native integration would give. It wasn't streamlined as in other browsers. It doesn't matter much since I only use YouTube Music as a PWA, which I have a relegated to another window in another browser.

Off topic, but screw you Google, for not giving a native app. Spotify meanwhile has command line third party clients even(looks at ncspot) for Premium users.

[–] Orbituary 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Firefox and Mull (a Firefox fork) have your privacy in mind. They work as good as Chrome and don't fuck you without asking.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There is Fennec available on F Droid that is basically Firefox with some blobs removed. Not as hardened as Mull but still a worthy option. There is one more browser based on Firefox called Iceraven for Android but it is not available on F Droid even. Though it supports a much wider variety of extensions than mobile Firefox does as of now. The downside is that it gets security updates usually later than Firefox, being an independent project.

[–] hperrin 10 points 1 year ago

Firefox is the least sucky.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Firefox, or on mobile, Fennec. It's a Firefox clone with some added functionality, maintained by the developers of the F-Droid app store themselves, so highly trusted & fully compatible to stay in sync with the desktop Firefox.

For those rare occasions where a website absolutely doesn't work with FF, and you must use it for some reason, I'd suggest Chromium portable on Desktop, and Kiwi Browser on mobile.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have Kiwi installed and like that desktop Chrome extensions can be installed on it for the odd occasion. However, IIRC, it is updated infrequently and isn't recommended as a daily driver.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'd never use it as a daily driver, really just for websites that absolutely don't work with Firefox/Fennec. Happens very infrequent if at all though.

[–] Orbituary 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cool, that kinda looks like vivaldi except based on firefox.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's the closest I've been able to find to vivaldi. Unfortunately no one does workspaces as good as vivaldi, but their implementation deleted all my workspaces one day, with no back up, and that was after several other total wipes of my windows/tabs.

[–] Overland 6 points 1 year ago

It’s got its problem but it’s my preference

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