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As lawmakers around the world weigh bans of 'forever chemicals,” many manufacturers are pushing back, saying there often is no substitute.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How much less cancer do you prefer from these vs internal combustion cars?

[–] RubberElectrons 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The point is being missed. We shouldn't use pfas for convenience items like pans and such. If we keep them well contained in EV batteries, that's probably ok.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I concur. Plastic makes great electrical insulation, but not great disposable cups. Petroleum is very versatile feedstock but not a good energy source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do wonder if cooking in nonstick pans without oil is less risky than cooking with oil in conventional pans.

[–] clegko 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think there's really any measurable difference, assuming the nonstick pan isn't scuffed enough to cause bits and pieces to flake off into your food.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cooking oil decomposes into carcinogens. Especially low smoke point oils.

(Admittedly the increased risk from either is pretty low)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know. We stop cars, cancer goes away pretty quickly. Forever chemicals are well... Forever.

That is why I need specifics. You deserve specifics too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We stop all cars. Build nanomachines to cure cancer and enable cold fusion. Abolish capitalism . It's all so easy.