this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2023
317 points (96.8% liked)

News

23661 readers
4134 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

As lawmakers around the world weigh bans of 'forever chemicals,” many manufacturers are pushing back, saying there often is no substitute.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who would have a problem with us returning to an average lifespan of 40 years?

[–] Elivey 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, me I do, which is why I want to get rid of these forever chemicals because that's how we're going to end up with 40 year lifespans again.

We aren't getting rid of our nutritious diets and vaccines which are the two biggest factors in history that have extended average lifespans. Not Teflon pans and firefighting materials.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you overestimate the toxicity of PTFEs. You know they are used in implants?

[–] Elivey 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You underestimate the toxicity of PFAS chemicals and their manufacture. I work in a toxicology lab, I know a lot of people researching PFAS right now.

To make PTFE, they used to use a chemical called PFOA, which causes multiple types of cancer and other pathologies. Everyone has been exposed to it, especially since they have been found to just dump it in whatever river is convenient. They had to stop using it after getting sued, but now they just use a different chemical that had been show to have the same effects. And again, they're just dumping it into rivers knowing the fines for polluting won't be as bad as actually containing the chemical properly.

That is one PFAS chemical. There are so many others. Do not let corporations poison you for profit and then lick their boots for the privilege.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

Seems like the problem is the lack of proper environmental protection and enforcement.

Love the closing personal attacks. Really drives your point home.

Your mamas so fat , oops I mean PHAT.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My comment was about how if elimination of these materials is impossible, then we should figure out how best to reduce their usage in an acceptable manner.

Jumping straight to black-and-white "So you'd send us back to the dark ages?!?!?!" type of response is kinda wild.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

not the people insisting on the chemicals, clearly.