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[–] FrankTheHealer 127 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Between this on Apple TV+ and Netflix cancelling Patriot Act with Hassan Minaj, it seems there is definitely a big issue with profit driven platforms worried about pissing off actual nations by literally just stating facts.

I hope Jon Stewart can do a deal with another platform and make this kind of content again. But I doubt any big names will want to after this.

[–] Touching_Grass 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Where can he go? Haven't we turned every platform into profit seeking machines. Any places that could have supported this type of media got chocked out long ago.

[–] numlok 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

I would love a Jon Stewart PBS tote bag.

[–] Lordgeoffery 2 points 11 months ago

Hahah best response

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unless John Oliver is next to get the can, HBO has always been a safe spot for true free speech, and he really pushes the envelope. But they may not have room in their schedule for two shows like his.

[–] HeyJoe 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please don't say those words out loud. That would be a travesty... I get nervous because he has already been doing this show for 9 years next month and that's kind of getting into show ending territory.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Shows like John Oliver could go 20+ years easily. If he's happy and making the exact show he wants to make, I don't see why he wouldn't keep going. Bill Maher is on season/year 21. And it really can't be that expensive compared to their other tent poles.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

He's doing it for fun at this point. He can post on Oddysea/Peertube/etc... and be completely out of just about anyone's jurisdiction.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

There are small independent news groups who I'm sure would be happy to have him. They don't have their own streaming services, but could likely put his videos on their website or YouTube. The big issue is they couldn't afford Stewart.

[–] seaQueue 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Between this on Apple TV+ and Netflix cancelling Patriot Act with Hassan Minaj, it seems there is definitely a big issue with profit driven platforms worried about pissing off actual nations by literally just stating facts.

For profit corporate owned platforms really are starting to show their limitations at this point. Eventually I think we're going to need a lot more self hosted, possibly federated, platform hosting if we want to address the limitations imposed by a single for profit platform owner driven by engagement and beholden to investors.

Apple deplatforming Stewart is the same issue as Musk tanking Twatter or YouTube demonetizing small content creators because it's profitable - a privately owned platform with the sole goal of maximizing profit and investment income doesn't advance the cause of free discussion for the public good.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

The problem isn't hosting its paying for production of content. His existing stuff will probably stay up and I find it unlikely that YouTube will take down the mean things John Oliver has said about China. The issue is shows with that amount of research and production is that they need a lot of money to produce content.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

It's not anything new that you feel pushback in media whenever someone attempts to challenge the status quo.

[–] nucawysi 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

More reason for universal standardized content access with universal type apps, anyoen can create content and distribute it to millions of people. These networks have always been about convenience, which they have a properietary tech on apparantly.

[–] TemporaryPrimate 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Duamerthrax 4 points 11 months ago

No, they invented html.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Hassan Minaj

Didn't he have problems with his staff? They complained on twitter iirc.