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The keen of you will have noticed that, unlike Monday and Tuesday, I didn't make a discussion post today about the Speaker's race. It was my full intention to do so, however, news broke this morning that the GOP nominee, Jim Jordan, scrapped his plans for a vote this afternoon.

A deal empowering Speaker pro tempore Patrick McHenry was speculated to be a potential "out" for the 18 GOP congresspersons who represent Biden-won districts, however after a 3-hour closed-door meeting today, the GOP was still undecided.

Tonight, Jim Jordan has announced plans for a third ballot, which he believes will take place 10:00 AM (EST) on Friday.

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[–] fodderoh 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I feel like the Dems have an opportunity. They already got the demonstration that Republicans are in chaos. Now I think the Dems would be better served to work with moderate Republicans to get a moderate Republican into the speaker role and be able to deliver the message that while the Republicans are in meltdown, Democrats are ready to get the work done.

[–] SkyezOpen 6 points 8 months ago

Republicans caused this mess. Dems should just let them flail longer and make a bigger mess because hey, they're the house majority and it's their fault they can't get their shit together. Probably a good idea not to let the govt shutdown, but maybe (doubtfully) moderate Rs will blink first and vote Jeffries, or at the very least vote present.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

moderate Republicans

Those don't exist though... at least not in terms of the elected ones. The party line these days is to support MAGA extremism; the ones that buck it get tossed out.

[–] qwertilliopasd 4 points 8 months ago

Exactly. Nobody wants to be the next Liz Cheney.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Also, the Dems have done the high-road approach for ages - it doesn't work. The people voting for Trump and his ilk don't care about policy or, frankly, logic. They're either voting for their "team" or because they agree with their bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Any Democrat who is willing to roll over for the GOP and then inevitably get stabbed in the back (and please, don’t insult everyone’s intelligence by pretending they won’t) will get rightfully destroyed in their next primary.

We don’t negotiate with terrorists.