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President Joe Biden was asked by a reporter in Israel on Wednesday what made him confident that the Israelis weren't behind the explosion that killed hundreds at a Gaza hospital on Tuesday.

Biden responded that it was "the data I was shown by my Defense Department."

Two U.S. officials told ABC News the Pentagon independently concluded the Gaza hospital blast was likely caused by an errant Palestinian Islamic Jihad rocket that fell short of its target.

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[–] c0mbatbag3l 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, the people of Palestine haven't exactly been pushing for a two state solution and they back/vote in groups that want to exterminate the jews and enforce Sharia law wherever they can.

Even if Israel wanted a two state solution they're not going to get it. Not until Palestinians can come up with a functional government that isn't made up of a group that has genocide as one of their stated political goals.

And I mean actual genocide, the attempt to end a genetic lineage through violence, not the "genocide" of lemmy which essentially just means "cultural disruption/assimilation", a widening of definition that allows them to pretend that it's equal on both sides cause "they're both committing genocide!"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's kind of funny to me listening to people who advocate for separate states. I mean, sure, do it. But don't expect that to stop religious zealots from firing peace rockets at each other.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 6 points 1 year ago

It won't stop anything, a two state solution is a joke.

The best case scenario now is for Palestinians to assimilate into other Muslim countries, it's not ideal but it's probably the way fewest people will die.

[–] Mirshe 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sorry man, it's not a "Lemmy" definition, that's literally a type of genocide as defined by the UN.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, the definition is vague: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml

genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

  • Killing members of the group;
  • Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
  • Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
  • Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
  • Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

It hinges on "intent", which needs to be inferred and interpreted. It includes terms like "in whole or in part", and does not specify how many "members of the group" are the lower limit.

However, the main point of R0cket_M00se still stands. There is a significant width in the spectrum of acts and intents which can be classified as genocide, with Hamas proudly on the upper end.

[–] c0mbatbag3l 3 points 1 year ago

If the word you choose to describe forced cultural assimilation and mass slaughter for the intended purpose of annihilating an entire group of people based on their race are the same, your definition is useless.

That's like calling a playground fight between kids attempted murder, it makes the word worthless when you water it down to mean any violence at all.