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Top Apple analyst says MacBook demand has fallen 'significantly'::A top Apple analyst said Wednesday that shipments for MacBook computers will decline around 30% year over year.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 11 months ago (4 children)

They should make hardware people want to buy.

Hardware that’s worth the price.

Lately they failed on both counts and failed 1st means never had a chance at 2nd.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Exactly. The price keeps inching upward and the last generation of MacBooks was awful. After getting burned by one of those things I’m not about to buy another one even if the new processor is awesome.

Not to mention, the OS has become junk over the years. It used to be great for developers. They still ship crusty old versions of programming languages, window management sucks, and it’s just a pain in the ass to work with. These days, I would rather be on a Linux machine. Plus, most games work on Linux now, which is something Apple still hasn’t figured out.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I use Linux for home and Mac for work. My Mac is older Intel based with software bar for F keys. If in the past 10 years ago I was into Mac and owned one… I no longer see the reason for Mac.

Hardware choices are not a selling point

Context bar makes it harder to use for programming. It is not a sell for me.

Mouse pad frequently jumps cursor.

Keyboard feedback is cheap.

Software is not impressive either

Usability wise Gnome is better than OS X for me. No ctrl key on right side is terrible.

Due to Windows subsystem for Linux v2 I am starting to think Windows is better for Linux development than Mac.

MAC M1, M2 laptops have good battery life going for them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The keyboard's on macs have always been crap. They're even crap on desktop, they've taken their awful, but I suppose understandable, laptop keyboard and stuck it on a desktop keyboard base. Why?

Why are Apple allergic to the concept of keys having three dimensions to them, why are they all flat with zero travel.

[–] Buddahriffic 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They've been a form over function company since the iMac days with the round mouse with a single button completed with PC mice thatwere commonly two button with scroll wheel and in a shape that fit the hand and let you know which way it was oriented.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apple was known for the one-button mouse in 1983, 15 years before the iMac

[–] Buddahriffic 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah but the iMac was when they introduced the completely symmetrical mouse that you couldn't tell which was it was pointing without looking for where the cord was. The previous one-button mice were just lacking functionality but looked as bad as most mice did in those days. The round one-button mice looked nicer but functioned worse, hence form over function.

That said, I should have probably added an "at least" to my original statement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Hmm. What ide do you use? I develop mostly C#, and I use rider on an m1 MBP (not my main pc of course, but nice for not sitting at my desk my whole life) and I’ve got access to the latest .Net framework (which is still old as MS has stopped releasing framework versions) as well as .Net 7 and the .Net 8 RC.

Again I pretty much only develop with C# .Net and JS/TS, but I’ve not had issues with support for current development.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By lately, do you mean the M2 chip compared to M1?

[–] nomecks 2 points 11 months ago

My M2 laptop with 8GB of ram?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

My wife's 3 years old MacBook with the software bar is such a nightmare to use. I get really pissed off whenever I get close to this thing. Between the poorly placed bar and the weird touchpad, never again.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago

i mean i want the m2 Chip but like the reasonable person i am, i wait for the competition to catch up and then buy it at a fair price, and install an actual OS on it. like holy hell.. they make decent hardware and then on top of that totally ignore that vulkan is the best thing that happened to graphics apis in 20 years