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Double-slit (lemmy.ml)
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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. The issue is that you can't detect photons without interacting with them. So it isn't observation like so many people think. It's that if you interact with subatomic particles you change their state.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The issue is that you can’t detect photons without interacting with them.

Can't...So far, right? Like there hasn't been a method developed to somehow detect indirectly without interaction? I don't know enough about this to know how one might go about that, but I imagine those that know more might love to given whatever knowledge may be gained.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No. Can't. The only interaction sensors have is with particles. Photons usually. All things give off light but then measuring light itself, measuring is destructive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this guy still believes in particles

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Ah! A field absolutist. Keep preaching, friend.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Detecting" equals "interaction" in this context. You can't detect them without detecting them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Although, given some further thought, isn't the double-slit experiment being discussed here sort of demonstrative of a "detection" without detection, i.e. the wave pattern vs. the particle pattern emerging after "detection/measurement/interaction"? Or am I misunderstanding it?

Is there another way they operate/appear outside of the wave-particle that eludes observation?

[–] IlIllIIIllIlIlIIlI 1 points 1 year ago

Im not an expert but tour comment should be on top. Knowing this, all makes sense so easy.