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With voting underway, at least nine Republicans had cast ballots against his bid, likely leaving him short of the 217 votes he would need to win the job. More rounds of voting are expected if he does not prevail on the first vote.

If he prevails, the Ohio lawmaker who has spent years fighting with leaders of his own party could end up in a position that puts him second in line for the presidency.

Republicans who control the chamber nominated Jordan as a replacement for Kevin McCarthy was ousted as speaker by a small group of his fellow Republicans on Oct. 3.

"He is a patriot, an America First warrior who wins the toughest of fights," Republican Representative Elise Stefanik said as she nominated Jordan for speaker on the House floor.

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[–] AFKBRBChocolate 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a bad take. Jordan is a vile, loathsome human being, but if we're going to demand fact-based decisions, we need to use facts ourselves. @[email protected] is correct, and being correct isn't playing devil's advocate.

[–] DreBeast -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that is not the definition of playing devil's advocate. You're technically correct when you play devil's advocate. The point is abscond the truth.

'someone who pretends, in an argument or discussion, to be against an idea or plan that a lot of people support, in order to make people discuss and consider it in more detail:'

When I hear someone say Jim Jordan is a pedo I say "why yes, he is." Coz he's complicit and even worse, never took accountability.

Did Hitler gas all 6 million jews? " Well, to be fair.."

Do you see how obnoxious you guys sound. We all know the truth. And the truth is Jim Jordan is complicit. If the world was objective, Jordan would've faced time for the crimes. EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T HE DO IT!But the world doesn't work that way.

You don't defend that. Ever.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're not necessarily correct when you play devil's advocate. You're just saying "Let's look at the counter argument to see where that brings us." It's a discussion strategy.

Hitler wasn't just aware of Jews being slaughtered, he directly caused it to happen. Jordan didn't molest anyone or direct anyone to molestation. What he did is grotesque: he knew about the molestation and did nothing about it. He was in a position to stop it and he did not. It's disgusting that he's not only free but he's in Congress. That still doesn't make him a pedophile though, and saying that is in no way defending him.

[–] DougHolland 0 points 1 year ago

Oh, you and your rational thinking and all.