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[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

My neurodivergent self is having a really hard time reading that article.

For us spectrum jockeys—avoidant, overwhelmed, and overstimulated as we are—community can be as slippery as the spectrum itself: something you surf along until you’ve slid straight through whatever you thought the end point was, before arriving back where you’ve always been, alone with your perpetually “other” self.

That’s the second sentence. And that’s all only one sentence. I’ve re-read it multiple times and I’m still scratching my head at most of it.

Anyway, I’m not sure I can relate to the sentiment that the internet was once more welcoming to neurodivergent people. I’ve never felt a sense of community online. It sure was a good tool for discovering new music, however.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I reject their entire premise. I've been on the internet since 1989, and the idea that the internet is for oddballs and outsiders might have been true once, but that ended in the late 1990s when AOL and Prodigy joined the internet.

[–] AtmaJnana 7 points 1 year ago

Eternal September ruined everything.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I also agree that it hasn't really changed attitudes toward ND people. Heck, the first thing I thought about was how the Internet has always been fairly snarky and sarcastic; something a lot of other autistic people struggle with identifying which often leads to misunderstandings and arguments.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny how culture shapes perception. As a German that sentence didn't even strike me as overly long.

[–] OwlYaYeet 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Me, who's gonna start a German class for the first time next semester: (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, I'm sure you won't have to translate any overly long sentences in the first semester.

[–] DillyDaily 8 points 1 year ago

That’s the second sentence. And that’s all only one sentence. I’ve re-read it multiple times and I’m still scratching my head at most of it.

Yeah I don't think I have enough working memory to remember how the sentence started by the time my dyslexic neurodivergent ass has reached the end of the sentence.

It's unfortunately reading as word salad for me.

My experience with the internet as someone born almost the exact same time and place as the author was that once you found your space, it really was a great community. Finding that community was the difficult step, not as difficult as finding community offline, but certainly with more potential to stumble upon gore and grotesque imagery that I can still remember, 25 years later, thanks 4chan. Not much has changed in that regard, there's weird shit everywhere.

Given the authors relatively young age in the grand scheme of the internet, I wonder how much of the sentiment they're expressing is just pure nostalgia.

The internet did feel better back then. But so did life. Because I was a teenager with no real problems and no real sense of what was happening in the world.

The internet was novel and new, many of us felt like we were part of something, that we were building and creating something. Now the internet feels like it controls us, companies and corporations are building something that we must participate in whether we like it or not, lest we be left behind economically, socially, educationally, etc.

But it's all personal perception. Federation and decentralisation has changed my perception and I have a lot more hope for the future of the internet, it's feeling a little bit more like old times.

[–] AtmaJnana 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I couldn't read past the first sentence/paragraph. I've got severe ADHD, though, so that's probably why the writing style was just too much for me.