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They exchanged text messages and emojis. Brief status updates with words of encouragement. A picture of the beloved family dog "Tutsi."

Until no more messages came.

And then, Cindy Flash, an American, and her Israeli husband Igal vanished into the violence, presumed kidnapped by Hamas.

Four days after Hamas attacked Israel, more than 100 Israelis and potentially dozens of foreign nationals are thought to be held captive in the Gaza Strip. At least 14 U.S. citizens have been killed and an unknown number are still unaccounted for.

Flash, 67, originally from St. Paul, Minnesota, is one of them. She lives in Kfar Aza, a kibbutz in southern Israel near Gaza, where some of the most harrowing and grisly stories have been emerging during the last few days.

"They are breaking down the safe room door," Flash said in one of her final messages to her daughter Keren, 34. "We need someone to come by the house right now." She had been communicating with her parents from a few houses away.

Keren described her mother, who worked as an administrator in a local college, as someone who had the "sweetest biggest heart," who everyone knew and loved, and who had spent a lifetime advocating for the rights of Palestinians, including those who live in Gaza where she may now be held.

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[–] avater 208 points 1 year ago (113 children)
[–] Gerula -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Questions: Who is fighting for Hamas? From where the "boots on the ground" come from? How can they organise amidst civilian population to take any coordinated actions?

[–] 13esq 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Assuming that your questions are rhetorical and that you are placing blame on all Palestinian citizens for the actions of Hamas. By the same logic, all Americans are guilty for the Jan 6th attack on the capital and all the other horrific acts America have committed around the world.

[–] Gerula 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, my questions are not rethorical. Any such movement cannot live separated from the local population. They cannot organise in secret if nobody is keeping that secret. They cannot train if the others don't keep the secret. They cannot manufacture, hide and launch thousands of small range rockets if other don't keep a secret.

I'm not arguing about justifications or who did what and why. It's not relevant for this discussion.

[–] 13esq 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, my questions are not rethorical.

Goes on to talk about how they were making a point rather than wanting an answer to their questions

[–] Gerula 1 points 1 year ago

Ok, good luck.

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