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Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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From Prof. Eliot Jacobson:

Wow! Wow! Wow!

North Atlantic sea surface temperature anomalies are going vertical again. And yes, I needed to extend the y-axis.

Yesterday's temperature of 24.49°C (76.08°F) was 4.2σ above the 1991-2020 mean. The previous high for July 17 was 23.71°C (74.68°F) in 2020.

https://twitter.com/EliotJacobson/status/1681321023306874880

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Imagine a bull in a china shop destroying everything, now there is two options :

  • 1- you take the bull out of the shop
  • 2- you decide that it would be to inconvenient to take the bull out but you are sure that in a few decades we will invent a technology that can repair the China faster than the bull is destroying it.

Carbon capture is the option 2, we continue to break the carbon molecules for energy pretending that we can recapture later. It's not gonna happen, we need to stop emitting NOW and maybe we can think about carbon capture.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently the scale that's required makes it completely impractical, especially given the timelines that are also required.