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Israel claims that Hamas is not a legitimate government and definitely not a state. They claim and control the territory of Gaza and consider Hamas a terrorist organization.
So by their own definition, this is a ~~war crime~~ crime against humanity.
Kinda like the extermination of a people including taking hostages, torturing hostages, raping hostages, and executing hostages?
Two wrongs dont make a right, but Israel is by no means worse than HAMAS.
Going by the numbers would suggest Israel is 20 times worse than Hamas. But, that was before they started one of the largest scale war crimes in recent history*... I would argue that Israel is, from what seems to me a rather objective point of view, to be much worse
*I'm referring to the war crime on 2.2 million civilians who are being cut off from water, electricity and food, who can do nothing about it, because of, you guessed it, Israel.
Numbers are not the most important moral decider in war. By your logic, the US or Canada would have been the worst major player in WW2. Intent matters and moral values matter.
Nah. My logic is sound, don't attribute flaws in it based on your inability to understand my point. Let me break it down for you:
I have not made this claim. I have suggested that numbers can help gain better understanding of a situation, especially when the numbers suggest incorrect portrayal of a situation, one which is extremely prevalent in US media.
Canada ... in WW2, as topping the leaderboard as responsible for civilian casualties? Canada is your second place there? I mean, why the fuck do I bother discussing this with people online. And.. the US on first place? Sure, the US nuked 2-300 000 people... Man... the dumb arguments I see. Aside from ethnic cleansing, it is one of the worst war crimes committed, but even so, it's a % of the civilian casualties in USSR, China and Nazi Germany. But, I'm sure that's part of the copium right. "The animals beheaded 40 babies" => "Let's do some ethnic cleansing, because intent matters, not numbers!". (PS: Numbers of beheaded babies: 0, "but I'm sure they intended to!")
Why are you comparing the two? You're insulting Israel by comparing them to a terrorist organization.
The Israeli Government should be better than criminals, just as the US should be better than the Taliban. But they actually kill more. Like it or not, Palestinians are citizens of Israel and living on their territory. If Israel kills them indiscriminately, they are committing a crime against humanity.
Never were.
They are defacto subjects of Israel, since the State of Palestine has been under Israeli military occupation since 1967. If you don't call them full "citizens" it implies they are second class citizens in a apartheid-like state.
Do you want to do that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_Palestine