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I'll be that guy and say this isn't crappy design and shouldn't be in this community. We've already got posts filling top of all we don't need more where they don't belong.
Unsolicited ads are implicitly anti-user, especially when they impede or interrupt access to content.
So you buy youtube premium instead? Or are you an entitled freeloading POS who shamelessly asks for uninterrupted free content? 😂
It was never free. It was paid for and used by universities and research institutions. There was no world wide web, just gopher, ftp, usenet, chat, telnet. Any kind of advertising was really frowned upon, it was basically treated like a library. But, there wasn't a lot to do there.
How are they supposed to pay for the infrastructure that you're using to watch it. Do you even have a clue what it costs to run YouTube for a month? The ads keep the servers up. BTW it's in the tens of millions a month if not more to run YouTube.
No one has a clue what it 'costs' because YT isn't honest about revenue, and being a subsidiary its P&L statements can be adjusted to spread any narrative around profitability it considers useful. In the context of Alphabet its operating cost is probably negligible.
You're already paying them data tribute through daily interaction with much of the corporate web.
Requests cost nothing, data storage and bandwidth usage do.
People upload over 500 hours of videos every minute, that's 256.320.000hours each year. Let's say that most of it is lower quality instead of 4K, so each hour takes 0.5GB of storage. That's 128PB every year. Youtube overall size probably reached Exabytes in the last few years.
Their daily bandwidth usage probably ranges way into Petabytes too, something you were orders of magnitude away over the whole life cycle of your site.
And if you were streaming the volume of videos they are, your costs would be astronomical too. Your argument is completely senseless.
What he's saying is there are alternative methods that cost less, theres a few youtube competitors that use p2p for instance, which'd cut down on hosting costs SIGNIFICANTLY
And you are still missing what I am saying. I don't care if it's P2P or not. If he is personally sending out TB's of data from his server everyday, being P2P means nothing. If TB's of data are leaving his server, then he will have an exponential cost growth to be able to send TB's of data. You're not making an apples to apples comparison. Sending TB's of data a month, let alone a day has an enormous cost to it. There is no avoiding that.
And he is arguing they are eating costs they dont have to eat, that they are CHOOSING to eat
Do you know the enormous amount of data it takes to stream video? And how much infrastructure to have such seamless loading as youtube does, caching copies of popular videos all across the world?
There used to be a free youtube before google? Someone has to volunteer to pay for the site servers unless you pay them my ignorant bro. Youre always free to stop using the evil corporation sites but you want their stuff for free instead and complain about it. Get a grip
imagine licking the corporate boot this hard
Youre the one begging them for free content here, stuff costs money get a job bum
yeah sure let me just go to the job factory and pick one of the many jobs they have available..
https://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2021/17-9-percent-of-people-with-a-disability-employed-in-2020.htm?view_full
It's nearly impossible to find a job when you've got a disability.
No youtube for you then, being disabled doesnt mean the universe owns you free videos and you can insult others for reminding you that stuff costs money
Edit money not even required just watch ads, the entitlement jesus
you sure seem like a pleasant person to be around
says the guy who insults me because he thinks universe owns him free videos for getting him disabled
Oof.
Yeah bro just wanted to hear it, u cant help it with some people. " aakshually i cant walk no job for me so give me youtube" then u get called unpleasant for not agreeing
"Videos always existed on internet" People upload 500 hours of video to youtube per minute how simpleminded are you Jesus Christ
Wow your reading comprehension is astounding, ill try to use as few words as possible, more videos = more money needed to host them
Storage isn’t cheap
Network bandwidth isn’t cheap
Data centers aren’t cheap
Add on Electricity, Transcoding, Multiple AZs, Backups, cached content with ISPs and engineer salaries and you’ve got a very expensive system.
That’s not even factoring in payments to creators, which are necessary if you want people to make quality content for the platform.
Your website serves multiple orders of magnitude less traffic than a single YouTube page. Web costs aren’t linear. It’s an S-Curve where it’s incredibly cheap to get started, but gets exponentially more expensive until you’ve reached some level of critical mass where revenue exceeds costs.
Video hosting pre-YouTube was terrible. It barely existed, and it wasn’t accessible. They sure didn’t invent it, but they made it possible for the masses to host video.
No other web content platform has taken off since YouTube. There’s a reason for that, and the majority is cost. To reach a widespread audience you have to invest hundreds of millions into infrastructure. Same reason Twitch still has the critical mass of livestreamers.
I already covered those points in my previous comments: 500 hours uploaded per minute, more videos = more money needed to host them. I can't dumb it down further, sorry
the 3 views dont matter youtube has to HOST it, STORE it somewhere, STORAGE costs money oh my god. Youtube was free when they didnt have to store 500 hours of video per minute and if you dont care if youtube dies why do you care if they ask for money, just dont use it?? and yes someone will make a free youtube and host 500 hours per minute for free I hope u dont actually believe this and youre trolling bro
With what, creating free youtube?
Where was this attitude when Netflix announced account sharing crackdowns? I buy premium to support the people I watch but still, what a wild comment.
What does netflix not want acc sharing have to do with youtube needing money to host their content and pay their creators? Dont like their new policy dont buy it are u looking for something to be mad about? Tf
Because they're both doing it for the exact same reason. Netflix doesn't want people using their service for free and neither does Youtube. Netflix didn't have ads so they cracked down on accounts. Youtube does, so they're cracking down on adblockers.
I was fine with Youtube locking their 4k+ resolutions behind premium but they're slowly tightening their hand more and more to make it 'profitable'. Hell, the queue feature is premium now. Using the app on your phone while it's 'locked' is a premium feature. Things that should be free are being stuffed into the 'premium' package but because that wasn't enough, they're trying to block adblockers. Making people pay for what they were getting for free, while it makes sense from a business perspective, never goes over well. Premium is really only worth it if you want the people you watch it get paid more, everything else can be done by third party players.
Although like Reddit, they might kill those off next.
"Should be free" ? You think only 4k videos cost them money? Bandwidth and storage for lower res is free? How naive jesus
Lol yes because people are already developing third party apps with those same features for free, ya duncecap.
Also if Youtube made their site "pay to access" we'd watch it die within the month.
Nice logic, movies can also be downloaded for free via "third party", does that mean studios should make them free because of that?
Can't download a movie theater which is where most of their money comes from. Streaming services definitely lose a lot of money and the only reason they can stay alive is in-house 'recommendations', high resolution/bandwidth streams, and compatibility with mobile devices. If third party sites/apps figure those three things out, will probably be tough to compete with.
What kind of moron watches ads willingly? That's some dumb shit right there I tell you what.