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I'm in my mid 40s, mid 20s feels like a lifetime and a few different versions of myself in the past. A shame there's no way to give us this perspective when we're young, maybe some hallucinogens could help but I'd doubt it'd be the same. I couldn't even imagine myself at 40 when I was in my early 20s but that's how life goes for now.
Thankfully, we don't need that perspective to know at 25 years of age that murdering and stealing cars is wrong.
No of course not, but the impact on life (themselves, others) and the fact this will haunt someone for as long or longer than they've have solid memories (you remember from about 5ish with better clarity?) just means the person being executed is not really the same person who did the crimes, in a growing maturity way. I'm not saying they don't deserve their sentence but if they could see with a mid life perspective before the crime I bet many minds would change from commiting many crimes. It's one thing to know it's wrong it's another thing to have an understanding of the long lasting impact their actions have. Maybe it wouldn't mean much to many criminals but I think some perspective would help before they did something that altered many people's lives.
Yes, I understand: hindsight is 20/20. But I object to this notion that a person is "a different person" simply because they've grown and matured and wouldn't make the same decision anymore. They only got to have that growth because no one murdered them. They are still responsible for their past actions, and I'm sure you realize that. I'm a therapist--I help people make better decisions in their lives, and I've helped criminals and would-be criminals alike. I'm all for more therapy for at-risk people early in their lives, as well as more humane prison systems that reduce recidivism through in-prison treatment and personal development; but I still think people need to be held accountable for their misdeeds and punished accordingly. One can acknowledge a person's growth and maturation without forgiving them for their past crimes.
If we're on the same page with all that, great. I don't mean to stoke an illusory disagreement.
I think we're saying a similar thing, your first reply was a bit flippant is all. I didn't mean to give the impression that people shouldn't be punished after years of growth, it was just a comment on how long it can take to give the final punishment, seems a bit cruel.
Fair enough. Your first comment seemed like it was implying that the guy shouldn't receive said final punishment simply because he'd matured by that point. As for the length of time it takes to hand down a sentence of execution...I know what you mean when you say it seems cruel, but for reasons I think are pretty obvious, I don't feel bad for the guy. The longer it takes, the more of his life he can at least live, if not enjoy. Also, when the sentence is death, I'm kind of glad it takes such a laborious process to implement--we shouldn't be executing people unless there's a clear consensus among several judges that it's the appropriate sentence. As for the death penalty itself, I have mixed feelings.