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I'm from the UK where in general there's only a stop sign if it's needed, such as a junction where you can see absolutely nothing on one side. Otherwise usually there's a give way line instead, to let people slow the car right down to look, but not need to stop if it's unnecessary.

Whenever I see a video of an American street, it seems like there's a stop sign everywhere I'd expect there to be a give way line. Surely this is inefficient as stopping and starting increases emissions, and stops the flow of traffic.

Is it really just the American government doesn't expect drivers to look properly? Is it so the police can give people tickets for not quite stopping but still doing the junction completely safely?

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[–] Mereo 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The problem with North America is that it is closed to trying new things because it believes that its way of doing things is better than the rest of the world.

For example, roundabouts could help with traffic flow and reduce accidents, as they have been proven to do in the rest of the world. But unfortunately, North American drivers are absolutely terrified of them, so cities will not implement them.

[–] Linebeck 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Seems like a bit of a broad brush to paint with my friend. Plenty of places are building roundabouts

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Not really. A small number of places are building a few. Tens of thousands are needed. It'll be a couple centuries at this rate.

[–] dan1101 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some areas are implementing roundabouts, but I think one problem with them is they require more space than a square intersection.

[–] NABDad 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think telling someone in Europe that we don't implement roundabouts in the US because of space considerations might seem ridiculous to them.

[–] cordlessmodem 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

An issue I see locally is they can't just paint a circle on the road with a couple signs. It always has to be a million dollar project widening out the curbs, building up a huge curb in the middle, putting a big goddamn planter in the middle, then sprinkle signs liberally until it's unreadable.

[–] Sawblade02 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In England, so many villages just paint a circle in existing intersections and call it a mini roundabout. Sound great until you realize cars just drive straight through it at full speed when there's no island to force them to slow down and turn.

[–] cordlessmodem 1 points 2 years ago

What's to stop them doing that at a four way stop? What's to stop them doing that at a stop light? You can't cure bad drivers except to stop letting them drive. Yeah sure a big obstacle is fine if it's open enough but in an already existing four way stop it's way, way overkill to build up this huge thing.

Now if you want to sink a foot wide concrete pole in the dead center of the intersection I'm on board, as long as it doesn't involve ripping up a half acre of land

[–] NABDad 1 points 2 years ago

Agreed, but they can commit to doing it via incremental progress. When they need to tear up an intersection for some other reason just make the change then. Eventually we'd all be a lot safer.

Of course, at least in Philadelphia, planning is not something that gets a lot of effort. The number of times over the years when I've seen crews resurface a road, then within a week or two some other crew is out ripping it all up to do some sort of work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Would have to deal with the four property owners on each quadrant of the intersection. Any one of them can stall the effort. This goes even worse in cities where buildings are likely close to the intersection. And yes, they should have built everything with roundabouts in mind in the first place. We focused on cars when we built everything but made poor choices which hinder future changes.

So that along with all the other red tape need to go through like environmental studies and such make each update to a roundabout somewhat daunting.

[–] BrerChicken 5 points 2 years ago

The problem with North America is that it is closed to trying new things because it believes that its way of doing things is better than the rest of the world.

Speak for yourself there, mister. Miami put in a ton of roundabouts before I left 12 years ago, and I see now every time I go back. And the rural community I live in now just made a new one. We also have bigger rotaries. Maybe it's not all of North America that's afraid of trying something new? Maybe it's just your town?