this post was submitted on 22 Jun 2023
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I think it would be best to hold off until the Lemmy developers push out an update which solves the issue of having separate communities for the same topic on multiple instances. For example, multi-community feeds or merging instances.
Is this now widely acknowledged as a problem? I don't see a problem with that kind of fragmentation tbh. Especially since there was fragmentation of that kind in reddit too Maybe Lemmy/kbin just need a reliable way to search across instances.
If I was mostly staying on the home page, looking at the aggregate feed, I wouldn't care. But since I tend to browse by community, I see it as a big problem actually.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I definitely don't think it's a problem. If we start merging similar communities and centralising everything... Doesn't that just end up defeating the whole point of the fediverse and recreating Reddit instead?
If I understand correctly, the issue is /c/sysadmin is different from /m/sysadmin (just example subs), creating overlap communities for the same thing. So if someone's doing an AMA they might be using /c/AMA, but other users would be trying to find it in /m/AMA and not understand why it's missing.
My opinion is, if we want Lemmy to take off and be a replacement for Reddit, it needs to be user friendly for the non-tech savvy users as well without having to explain how it works in a 3 page essay. Consolidating those communities across instances would help with that a lot.
I get that, and it does totally make sense -- the main issue I have is viewing this as a strict "replacement" for Reddit. I believe we should be more comfortable with moving and "replacing" Reddit with something more like an alternative than a direct copy; Reddit fell apart for a lot of reasons, but we can at least point at one thing to change; centralisation.
I think we shouldn't replace like for like, but move on and find new things; whether that's Lemmy, or other alternatives. Some people prefer centralised forums, some people prefer more niche communities -- for me, personally, I like more niche communities -- but I think there's a way for us all to be happy without sacrificing the fediverse ideals.
I'd say it's the opposite. I generally browse by topic (for instance,
fediverse) instead of staying on the front page. So, as things stand, I just pick the largest community on the topic, and participate in that one. This naturally leads to centralization. If instead, I could "merge" multiple communities, then I'd easily participate in all of them.To clarify, I want there to be multiple separate communities on the same topic, with potentially separate moderation and rules, etc. I just want to see them on the same feed (kinda like the front page, but topic-specific; also, it would be nice if it was auto-generated when I subscribe to communities of the same name).
Ahhh that makes sense! I agree that being able to aggregate multiple communities into a feed would be really handy!
There are a bunch of posts about it: https://lemmy.world/post/228220 https://lemmy.world/post/211661 https://lemmy.world/post/102285 https://lemmy.world/post/159729 https://lemmy.world/post/75670 https://lemmy.world/post/43452 https://lemmy.world/post/37654 https://lemmy.world/post/194184 https://lemmy.world/post/142025
There's even an issue thread about it on Github: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/1113
Yeah this would be "Meta" alright lol