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Tara Rule says her doctor in upstate New York was “determined to protect a hypothetical fetus" instead of helping her treat debilitating pain.

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[–] EdibleFriend 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And that'll fix society? Because we've been trying it that way for a very long time. Things are getting so much better doing it that way right?

Day by day society is getting more progressive and moving away from things like this right? Right?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. Yes, society is getting more progressive.

  2. Even if it didn't, violence won't solve anything.

[–] EdibleFriend 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We are getting more progressive? When did we get roe versus Wade back? Did we stop trying to outlaw trans people? When did the police stop executing black people in the street just for fun?

These people do what they want because it's literally legal for them to do it. Nobody is doing anything to stop them. Now if they all started getting drug into the middle of the street and sat on fire they would think twice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We are definitely getting more progressive. We are in a better position than pre-Roe and I'm sure Dobbs will be overturned in my lifetime. Trans rights and black rights have continued to improve, though slower than we'd like. The idea that "nobody is doing anything to stop them" is provable false.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't disagree that violence isn't the correct answer in this situation, but "Violence never solves anything" is just a nice platitude and is demonstrably false. Most of the rights and privileges we have today only came about through violent means. It is more accurate to say violence doesn't solve everything.

Or to put it another way:

The Magna Carta was a peace treaty.
The ideas of a democratic republic were born of the French and American Revolutions
MLK was the peaceful side of a civil rights movement that would not have had the same power without Malcom X and the black panthers.
Overtime, the 5 day work week, unions and most labor protections came at the expense of a LOT of blood in the United States.
Women's Suffrage was not a peaceful movement either.

In the history of most countries, mass violent protest has been the protest most likely to achieve its goals. Saying "Violence never solves anything" is to turn a blind eye to history.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are exceptions to every rule, but unless violence is being used in defence, there are almost always other ways. For example, experts don't agree whether Malcolm X's violent efforts helped or harmed the civil-rights movement. There's a reason modern unions don't fuck with violence.