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[–] [email protected] 337 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Wait, but they already launched it without Denuvo. So pirates can easily crack the launch version without it, and only paying customers need to deal with the antipiracy bullshit? Nice, they took a pro-piracy hyperbole and made it actually real.

[–] [email protected] 237 points 11 months ago (1 children)

DRM ONLY ever affects paying customers, ergo DRM is always unethical malware.

Also, let’s never forget how Ghostwire Tokyo had Denuvo patched IN over a year after release.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

Eh, I only meant hyperbole in terms of antipiracy affecting the pirates that had to figure out how to crack it. As a broad gesture at the fact piracy (consumption) depends on piracy (effort) to work

[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm thinking this too... like what's even the point of using denuvo if it's not applied day one? The whole point is to delay piracy so they sell more copies during launch week (in theory), so waiting until after day one completely ruins that since you can just pirate the easily cracked launch version.

[–] kautau 71 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The point is that they purposefully left (or created) bugs in the day one version that are fixed in this patch after you install denuvo

It’s not the first time they’ve done something like that, they broke another assassins creed game and leaked it to get people to buy the real copy, this is no different

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/935316-assassins-creed-directors-cut-edition/43146901

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't this make it easier to crack the denuvo as well though? Since now you have a list of changes to look at for where denuvo is implemented.

[–] kautau 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I mean, decompiling an obfuscated binary down to each individual CPU instruction is pretty nuts to compare two separate releases, even at that level, denuvo can be injected into game assets everywhere, so it gets hard to tell what’s an actual patch and what’s denuvo. I’m guessing it’s sort of on purpose, by combining legitimate updates with denuvo, it’s harder to tell what’s denuvo. If denuvo was included in version 1, it would be easier to tell what was a legit update in the patch, and rule out those pieces of the install being denuvo. But that’s all sort of the whole point of denuvo is that it’s all over the codebase, all over the binaries, the assets, the libraries. It’s hard to nail down every spot it exists

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not a day one patch, but day-1 patch. The game will be released a few hours from now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

If non DRM version is given to reviewers, it will leak to crackers, unless you control 100% of reviewers you give a copy. This does not make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

That's the thing: paying consumers always pay the price for DRM by having to jump through any hoops.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Reviewers get games prior to release day. So it may not be so likely that you can get a working game without the day 1 patch.

[–] alldreadme 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but pirates won't be able to get the newer updates/bugfixes