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Both Republicans likely need the support of Democrats to prevail in their battle over the speakership. Here’s how that could shake out.

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[–] Holomew 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is some reason to dems pushing for McCarthys removal. That said, they're never going to vote for Gaetz or whoever he decides to back. Best case scenario for Gaetz is McCarthy gets ousted and we have gridlock for the next year with no speaker.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

It would only take 5 Republican representatives to make Hakeem Jeffries the Speaker. If things keep going sideways within the Republican caucus, one has to wonder if there aren't a handful of moderate Republicans who are sick of the bullshit and support Jeffries. He would still need their votes to pass anything, so they would be incredibly influencial while also sidelining these fools, but the far right would certainly terrorize them

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is no reality in which 5 republicans hand over their majority to a democrat speaker. I’ll put money down. 0% chance lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If there Republicans were sick of being identified as the party of Nazis, white supremacists, racists, liars, fraudsters, rapists, conspiracy theorists and generally insane people, then the winning move for all of them (except for the above mentioned insane members) would be to collectively vote with the Democrats.

Sure, that would mean handing the House to Democrats, probably losing the House and possibly more in the next elections, and for s number of them it would mean losing their seats - but the alternative is going to be handing the reigns of the entire party over to the Nazis, white supremacists, racists, liars, fraudsters, rapists, conspiracy theorists and generally insane people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I can name two Republicans in the House for whom any of that was a problem, and they both lost their re-elections. Ironically, one of them was Liz Cheney.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Let’s not mistake my certainty of what they’re doing for approval lol I’m just explaining that it is not happening.

[–] dhork 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are much more likely to get 50 (or even 150!) Democratic votes for a moderate Republican than 5 Republican votes for Jeffries....

[–] Cryophilia 3 points 1 year ago

one has to wonder if there aren’t a handful of moderate Republicans who are sick of the bullshit

There aren't. No wondering about it.